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    • bonemapB
      bonemap Izzy Guru
      last edited by

      Hi @eight, Great work! It must have been a real buzz seeing it work with an audience. Regards Bonemap

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      • eightE
        eight
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        @bonemap Thanks! It was an interesting experience at every step. Start with trying to convince the show's director, and almost fail ("it will distract the audience"), immediately sell it to the music director ("it's gonna be very cool!"), fight with the sound engineer, who wanted to just take the audio off the phone and push it through his Dolby Surround Sound system. Work with the actors to have them learn to cue me with their phones and take what's going on in the audience into account. Get into a lengthy appeal process with Apple, who ignored all the instructions on how to set things up, and kept insisting that the app "is not doing anything at all". Answer a myriad of questions from the administration, PR, IT, who had to greatly expand their WIFI to allow 300 simultaneous connections, and finally the audience. Bring down the network on the first dressed rehearsal (the WIFI was open, and everybody and their brothers with android devices saturated the connection before the iOS people could get in). Finally excited to see the audience going crazy with the torches going on and screens flashing to the beat of the music on the stage.

        --8

        Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
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        Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
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        • bonemapB
          bonemap Izzy Guru
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          @eight

          So once the show has run through there is no way for audience members to access the video/image content of the app? They should delete the app or upgrade for the next show that uses the app?
          cheers
          bonemap

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          • eightE
            eight
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            @bonmap

            Currently there is no way to see the content, unless commanded by the OSC sender. So, yes, as far as the audience (and Apple) is concerned, this app is as good as a brick outside of the show.
            That can change though, I have some ideas of how to entertain people outside of theatre, but currently it is low on the priority list.
            --8

            Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
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            Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
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            • G
              gavspav Beta Silver
              last edited by

              Interesting and brilliant! - how did the wifi perform? 

              I've been daydreaming about the following idea for a while:
              Get people to hold there phones up and ping a signal to each one in turn so camera tracking can calculate the position of each phone and link it to an ip address. 
              Then send out ip specific osc to set each phone screen to different colours and create patterns.
              I realise this is more complicated than broadcasting OSC......but it is a daydream at the moment!

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              • SkulptureS
                Skulpture Izzy Guru
                last edited by

                This is amazing!!

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                • bonemapB
                  bonemap Izzy Guru
                  last edited by

                  Hi, So much potential with this, very inspiring. Cheers Bonemap

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                  • SkulptureS
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru
                    last edited by

                    Just got this working and its amazing! Thanks for sharing!

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                    • eightE
                      eight
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                      @Skulpture : Thanks! I am open to suggestions on how to expand and make its functionality easier to access.

                      --8

                      Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
                      Twitter: https://twitter.com/eight_io | Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eight_io/
                      Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
                      MulchTune: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mulch-tune/id1070973465 | Augmented Theatre: https://augmentedtheatre.com

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                      • DusXD
                        DusX Tech Staff
                        last edited by

                        @gavspav

                        that sounds like a great application... love it.
                        @eight
                        awesome tool.. its great that you are sharing!

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                        • dbiniD
                          dbini
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                          i did a version of a show a couple of years ago where - for part of it - we sent sliders to individual audience members' phones to control elements of the lighting, soundtrack and video effects. a person in the audience would had control over an element for 5 minutes. Thing is, as soon as they realised they had control, they just wiggled the slider around like crazy for 10 seconds, then gave up.

                          it was done with JSon/websockets sending OSC into Isadora, with Midi out to Live and DMX out through a LanBox.
                          That was part of research for a system which we developed into a show called Please Switch On. We performed in Switzerland last week and it went really smoothly. (the app is hosted on Heroku, which is normally very stable, but 5 minutes after the first show, Heroku across Europe went down for the afternoon, to be fixed about an hour before the second show - somehow we got very lucky)
                          I like the idea of flashing audience's LEDs in sequence. I worked on a show years ago where we gave the audience members torches and they did the lighting themselves.

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                          • bonemapB
                            bonemap Izzy Guru
                            last edited by

                            @eight

                            Could you check the color flash - I am getting everything else. iphone 6 v9.3.5
                            cheers
                            bonemap

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                              fifou
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                              Bravo !
                              Give me so much ideas..
                              I wish I could apps code for ios and android..

                              Best
                              Philippe

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                              • eightE
                                eight
                                last edited by

                                @bonemap : I just checked v 1.3 (currently on App Store) against the Isadora Patch –– flashes are working. Try to restart the app and check the IP settings, being on the same WiFi network.

                                @fifou -- Thanks. I welcome all ideas on how to make it easier to incorporate into shows.
                                @dbini -- We are discussing giving the audience some kind of control, but so far we thought of aggregating some kind of input from all the audience, and act on that. Like giving them some choice in the voting.
                                --8

                                Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
                                Twitter: https://twitter.com/eight_io | Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eight_io/
                                Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
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                                • dbiniD
                                  dbini
                                  last edited by

                                  @eight - Please Switch On is now all about the audience voting. its loads of fun. we don't have a clue what we're going to do until the audience is in and contributing....

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                                  • bonemapB
                                    bonemap Izzy Guru
                                    last edited by

                                    @eight I did delete the TestFlight version and go to the App Store, and started using the multi-cast address. But I will try it all again today. I really want to see the color working! Cheers Bonemap

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                                    • eightE
                                      eight
                                      last edited by

                                      @bonemap At this point it is better not to use the TestFlight version because it is not guaranteed to be in sync with the example isadora patch I maintain in the dropbox.

                                      We will get down to the reason of the problem you are having with the color, I promise, just need to keep the ball rolling 😉
                                      --8

                                      Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
                                      Twitter: https://twitter.com/eight_io | Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eight_io/
                                      Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
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                                      • bonemapB
                                        bonemap Izzy Guru
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi 8, I have received a TestFlight update for your iOS app. I have had an opportunity to test with Isadora, the app is at least launching on my iPhone with iOS10. The AR compass functions appear after swipping across the screen. Everything is working on the Isadora 22Sept patch.

                                        Cheers Bonemap

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                                        • eightE
                                          eight
                                          last edited by

                                          @bonemap: Thanks for your report. Previously the app wasn't launching on IOS 10, because this version of IOS introduced a watcher, which would kill applications on startup, if they were considered taking too long time to launch. The app was loading files off the cloud, and that prompted the kill on iOS 10. Now download happens on background thread and iOS 10 is happy.

                                          Did you check out new functionality at http://onewaytheater.us/augmentedtheatre/ ?
                                          Thanks.
                                          -8

                                          Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
                                          Twitter: https://twitter.com/eight_io | Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eight_io/
                                          Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
                                          MulchTune: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mulch-tune/id1070973465 | Augmented Theatre: https://augmentedtheatre.com

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                                          • eightE
                                            eight
                                            last edited by

                                            Today at the show I found another use of the app: It can be used for communication between technicians, running the show. Messages silently appear on their smartphones, coming from one centralized location (Isadora), telling everybody what exactly is happening now, and what to expect next. I think I will add a configurable OSC port to separate technical and non-technical audiences.

                                            --8

                                            Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
                                            Twitter: https://twitter.com/eight_io | Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eight_io/
                                            Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
                                            MulchTune: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mulch-tune/id1070973465 | Augmented Theatre: https://augmentedtheatre.com

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