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    Screen Capture actor (Alpha) - Bug Reports & Updated Versions

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    • K
      kikko
      last edited by mark

      [ EDIT: Just, so it's at the top of this thread this is the most up-to-date version of the plugin: screen-capture-v0.9.3.zip ]

      First of all THANK YOU to Mark and all Isadora Staff for your effort, awesome Guru sessions and supporting the community in this particular moment.

      Following my bugs report about Screen Capture actor:

      - My setup is basing on 3 display, the PC one (1920x1080) and 2 external monitors (one 1920x1080 and one 1280x768). If I'm running Isadora on Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 with Screen Capture I can grab the 2 external monitors but PC monitor is black and load 170%, if running on internal GPU I can see only my laptop monitor. As far as I know this behavior is "normal" also with OBS. Maybe you know how workaround that. When I grab the to external monitors the percentage of loading change a lot, actually depends on witch kind of windows is open on that monitor (for example, Isadora sofware is around 25%, Google browser 200%, but if I'm opening another windows could be different or swing a lot)

      - The crop function doesn't work at all on full screen mode. Sometime is working on single windows mode, but there's not a rule (or maybe I can't found it), sometime yes sometime not

      - Windows list never showing Isadora software window

      That's almost all, just a couple of feature request:

      - Isadora stage don't show the mouse arrow pointer, is it possible have a control on the actor to switch on/off the arrow showing

      - maybe could be helpful also a sort of magnifying lens when you want highlight some region of the window

      Thank you once again!

      Francesco

      Isadora 3.0.2 - Windows 10 Pro 64 bit - Intel Core i7-8750H CPU @ 2.20GHz - 6 core, 12 threads - 16GB RAM – Samsung SSD Evo 860 500GB + Samsung SSD Evo 970 500GB - Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060

      Isadora 3.0.8/Win 10 Pro 64 bit/Intel Core i7-8750H/32GB DDR4 2400hz/Samsung SSD Evo 860 + Samsung SSD Evo 970/Nvidia GTX 1060

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        sommerdi
        last edited by

        On MAC Catalina the option "window list" is only working as mention in Guru-Session with the "window cpu mode" I get always a full display screen.

        With 10.13.6 it is working as mention.


        Diether

        OSX 10.13.6 / MBP 15 (late 2013) 2,6 GHz i7 , NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB / IZZY 3.0.7
        OSX 11.6 / MBP 16 2.3 GHz i9 32GB / Radeon 5500 8GB
        Motu Ultralite MKIII / BM Intensity USB3
        located in Munich/Germany

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          dachhu
          last edited by

          Hello, 

          Sadly no output for me. it reads windows/displays but doesn't output imagery. Windows 10, icore 7, nvidia gtx 850m. I've tried swapping wich graphic card isadora uses but still no picture. not using a secondary display, but surely shoud still work.

          having fun with NDI, sadly no support for Android at mo.

          cheers

          David

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          • jfgJ
            jfg
            last edited by

            for me on Mojave is all OK. I tried today with two screen and a videoprojector as third output and used 3 screen capture actors sent to the second screen. No problems: crop works in all cases, list of windows in all actors, windows chosen through names too.

            best

            Jean-François

            • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
            - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
            • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
            - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
            - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

            Located in Bremen, Germany

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              dachhu
              last edited by

              After yesterday I have updated and Windows 10 to absolute latest, updated geforce Nvidia to the Max and gave my memory a good scrub and now it all seems hunky dory, but haven't used a secondary screen yet. will expore more. Thanks for your hard work. David

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              • markM
                mark
                last edited by

                Dear All,

                Below is an updated to the Screen Capture ALPHA actor. The following bugs have been addressed:

                1) The Crop Function should now always work, whether for a display or a window. (@kikko)
                2) I've verified the 'window list' works on macOS Catalina. (I did not see it fail previously, but tested it again @sommerdi)
                3) It's not a bug on my side, but as @dachhu's post above shows, it's essential that your GPU drivers are up to date if you're running Windows and you want to use this plugin.

                In terms of the issues mentioned by @kikko and @dachhu about capturing the internal (laptop) display as well as external displays, this is something we have to work on. As @kikko mentioned, OBS exhibits the same limitation, and our team member @DusX has also experienced it on his machine. This only seems to come up when you've got both a primary GPU (takes more power) and the Intel Integrated Graphics GPU (which takes less power) installed. I cannot reproduce this on my Mac Book Pro running Windows via Bootcamp, because it only "sees" the one AMD primary GPU and uses it for the internal and external displays. So, on my computer, it works as expected.

                I have an idea about solving this, but it's going to require me using TeamViewer to get on @DusX's computer remotely to see if it might work. (Unless someone in Vienna has a spare Windows laptop they want to drop off to me -- if that's the case, let me know.)

                In any case, I've fixed all I can and look forward to hearing more about your experiences using it.

                To try the latests, download screen-capture-v0.9.3.zip

                Best Wishes,
                Mark

                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                • tomthebomT
                  tomthebom @mark
                  last edited by

                  @mark


                  Hi Mark, thanks for the update... I am working on a 2.9Ghz i7 Macbook from 2017 with High Sierra and I still have no luck when it comes to capture a window from the window list in GPU mode.
                  All I manage to see is a capture of my whole computer screen. (And yes, I can crop it.)
                  First after switching to CPU-mode I manage to capture any window from the list, although lots of items are pictures from my menu bar- is there any chance to turn this off? Best wishes to Vienna!

                  Izzy 3.2.6 ARM on MBP14'/2023/M2 Pro/ macOS 13.5

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                  • markM
                    mark @tomthebom
                    last edited by mark

                    @tomthebom said:

                    Hi Mark, thanks for the update... I am working on a 2.9Ghz i7 Macbook from 2017 with High Sierra and I still have no luck when it comes to capture a window from the window list in GPU mode.

                     I'll go test on High Sierra right now.

                    But RE: this comment "although lots of items are pictures from my menu bar- is there any chance to turn this off?" I cannot find a way to sense what is a "real" window and what is a User Interface element. For some nerdy info, here's the exact call I'm making:

                    CGWindowListCopyWindowInfo(kCGWindowListOptionOnScreenOnly | kCGWindowListExcludeDesktopElements, kCGNullWindowID)

                    You would think that kCGWindowListExcludeDesktopElements option would exclude all those unnessary windows. In any case, I'll look into this too but I'm not hopeful.

                    Best WIshes,
                    Mark

                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    • dbiniD
                      dbini
                      last edited by

                      i'm happy to report that v0.9.3 is working perfectly for me on Mac - High Sierra. 🙂

                      John Collingswood
                      taikabox.com
                      2013 MBPR 2.3GHZ i7 OSX11.7.4 16GB
                      & 2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX12.3 16GB

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                      • MichelM
                        Michel Izzy Guru @tomthebom
                        last edited by

                        @tomthebom said:

                        although lots of items are pictures from my menu bar- is there any chance to turn this off?

                         unfortunately not.

                        Best Michel

                        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                        • markM
                          mark @tomthebom
                          last edited by

                          @tomthebom said:

                          I am working on a 2.9Ghz i7 Macbook from 2017 with High Sierra and I still have no luck when it comes to capture a window from the window list in GPU mode.

                          I don't quite know what to say. Here's a screen shot of the plugin working on High Sierra. The window list appeared as it should.

                          Best Wishes,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                          • markM
                            mark
                            last edited by

                            To All:

                            I was able to remove the excess windows from the list by examining certain properties in each window. Now you won't see the menubar and all the widgets inside the menubar.

                            I simply re-uploaded using the same version number. So all of you should download screen-capture-v0.9.3.zip again to get this improvement.

                            Best Wishes,
                            Mark

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            • jfgJ
                              jfg @mark
                              last edited by

                              @mark

                              Dear Mark,

                              you are really the best. It works fantastic

                              best

                              Jean-François

                              • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                              - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                              • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                              - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                              - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                              Located in Bremen, Germany

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                              • tomthebomT
                                tomthebom
                                last edited by

                                @MarkTroika 

                                Thanks a lot Mark, somehow I managed to get it to work.
                                And the list is very neat now... Thanks for your effort!

                                Izzy 3.2.6 ARM on MBP14'/2023/M2 Pro/ macOS 13.5

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                                • jfgJ
                                  jfg @mark
                                  last edited by

                                  @mark

                                  it is not possible to answer to your NDI watcher post.

                                  best

                                  Jean-François

                                  • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                                  - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                                  • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                                  - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                                  - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                                  Located in Bremen, Germany

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                                  • K
                                    kikko
                                    last edited by

                                    @mark new release tested:

                                    - crop issue solved!

                                    - some menu bar still alive😬

                                    - in window list still missing Isadora one

                                    - if turn on windows cpu mode and choose any of the window appear on window list, the load drop down a lot

                                    - something very weird happen: if moving very fast the mouse arrow pointer on the display chosen in display field, the load drop down a lot

                                    Waiting for your news about GPU issue.

                                    Thank you!

                                    Francesco

                                    Isadora 3.0.8/Win 10 Pro 64 bit/Intel Core i7-8750H/32GB DDR4 2400hz/Samsung SSD Evo 860 + Samsung SSD Evo 970/Nvidia GTX 1060

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                                    • markM
                                      mark @kikko
                                      last edited by

                                      @kikko

                                      Thank you for the interesting results.

                                      In window list still missing Isadora one

                                      Yes, When I first wrote this plugin if I included Isadora's windows, it crashed. I will investigate as time allows. But is it important to capture Isadora's own Windows? I didn't think that would be important.

                                      Some menu bar still alive

                                      You mean in the 'window list' menu? Or?

                                      If turn on windows cpu mode and choose any of the window appear on window list, the load drop down a lot

                                      Well, it could be that that capturing from some displays is itself heavy. I need to work remotely on @DusX's computer to see this, because I don't have those problems on mine.

                                      Something very weird happen: if moving very fast the mouse arrow pointer on the display chosen in display field, the load drop down a lot

                                      It could be that by moving the mouse you are causing the display to refresh more quickly, and that lowers the load.

                                      Waiting for your news about GPU issue

                                      Again, need to remotely work on @DusX's computer. But since OBS doesn't solve it, I cannot promise I will be able to do better.

                                      Thank you!

                                      Your welcome!

                                      Best Wishes,
                                      Mark

                                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                        sommerdi
                                        last edited by

                                        @ mark ...

                                        I still have to topic with Catalina ....  maybe i have a missunderstanding ...

                                        OSX 10.13.6 / MBP 15 (late 2013) 2,6 GHz i7 , NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB / IZZY 3.0.7
                                        OSX 11.6 / MBP 16 2.3 GHz i9 32GB / Radeon 5500 8GB
                                        Motu Ultralite MKIII / BM Intensity USB3
                                        located in Munich/Germany

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                                        • dbiniD
                                          dbini @sommerdi
                                          last edited by

                                          @sommerdi

                                          i think that if you are on GPU mode, you will never be able to capture a window that is hidden because the GPU isn't drawing it. That's why Mark has made the CPU mode.

                                          John Collingswood
                                          taikabox.com
                                          2013 MBPR 2.3GHZ i7 OSX11.7.4 16GB
                                          & 2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX12.3 16GB

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                                          • JuriaanJ
                                            Juriaan Tech Staff @dbini
                                            last edited by

                                            @mark 

                                            In window list still missing Isadora one

                                            - Regarding this question that you asked, no I dont see why you would use this tool if you can use Get Stage Image for that purpose.. 

                                            Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
                                            Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
                                            Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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