Isadora/Ableton

fypy

Hi Excuse my poor english, I am french Well, i suppose you work with a PC, and not a Mac. Because it is simple on a Mac, due to CoreMidi. On PC, you have to find a virtual midi internal patcher. I founded one once, but i am not at home, and don't remember the name of the program... I will help as soon as I can. Francois

Skulpture

Good point; so I guess the main question is Mac or PC? I forget what all you users use - adding it in your signature helps

djinoui

There are many virtual MIDI cables but this one works well on Windows: http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

Didn't try it from Isadora to Ableton, though.

dbini

for this project, i'm on Mac. Skulpture - i followed your tutorial on Vimeo, but instead of playing MIDI files, i'm aiming to stream data over MIDI to control parameters in Ableton, in the same way that a physical MIDI controller would do.

i've linked the 2 together directly, but the only evidence of this doing anything is that when i set up Live to assign a MIDI controller number to a parameter (eg: volume fader of a channel) then go into Isadora and click on All Notes Off in the Communications menu, i get a random channel/number/pitch assigned to the parameter in Live.

Skulpture

It's the same just in reverse really. In fact will make a quick video for you @dbini

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dbini

G - wrong way round. i need to send controller data from Izzy to Live, rather than listen for it, so i don't think a Control Watcher will do it.

dbini

I was thinking a Send Raw MIDI actor might be useful, but its not quite the right thing

Skulpture

The video is online but is only low quality at the minute - it will get better soon as YouTube process it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BWU2Q3dP-4

vanakaru

works just as shown above

Skulpture

I've just updated the video with annotations too.

dbini

Awesome! - nailed it! i had forgotten about Send Control.

Skulpture

Great - glad you are sorted. Don't forget to change the Controller Number each time you add a new one.

dbini

yeah - and set up all the Control Sends and activate them one at a time when MIDI Learning. i'm only looking at 6 controllers so it shouldn't get too complicated.

thanks G, that's another pint i owe you...

Fred

you may find that to use a note as a control you will also have to send the note off with a small delay afterwards (Which can be just a send note with velocity set to zero).

dbini

now i'm trying to do the same thing on a WIndows machine: send MIDI control from Izzy to Ableton. Windows doesn't have the Isadora Virtual MIDI function, so does anyone know how i can do this?

john

Skulpture

http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/virtualmidi.html

Might work - never used it but have it in my bookmarks.

dbini

cheers Graham - loopMIDI works beautifully (http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html)

john

Skulpture

Cool - glad it's worked.

WhiteFly

Hello,

I am using Isadora and Ableton Live "talking" via MIDI, in both directions, perfectly on Mac (Isadora MIDI ports) and PC / Windows 7 (VirtualMIDI ports) almost two years.

(http://vimeo.com/84267089)

But I could not monitor and control the MIDI timecode and track the position of the cursor on Ableton Live.

Anyone have any idea how to do this?

neo

Skulpture

Is this any help?

http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/298/timecode-calculator-comparator/p1