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    Motion Control Particles (e-motion software)

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    • crystalhorizonC
      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
      last edited by

      dear @particlep thats very kind of you doing the tutorial. Thank you so much. Will test it with the kinect this weekend.

      All the best,
      Alex

      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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        CLAUDE
        last edited by

        hello there, 
        I use eMotion over a year for my projection mapping video but since the latest version 0.7.1 
        several problems have emerged: 
        -My LeapMotion is not detected in LeapMotion tool options. 
        -MadMapper no longer receives the image via Syphon. 
        fortunately my Kenect work well with TuioKinect. 
        I hope a savior. 
        Thank you for your help. 
        CLAUDE

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        • DavidD
          David
          last edited by

          Dear @particlep @Skulpture @feinsinn,
          As I was tweeking my leap motion for another project

          the new version of eMotion works out of the box with the leap motion.
          Here are quick steps to making it happen :
          1\. select the grid particle tool
          2\. go to window/current tool options
          3\. change values to width and Hight currently at 100 each to 50, then press create
          (I use smaller values hoping it wouldn't crash but It maybe doesn't change anything it crashed 5 times since
          I started this article.)
          4\. once the grid is up go to tools/leap or press Cmd+$
          5\. set fingers to "current tool" in the "Associated tools" and check the enabled button
          6. If you want to see the fingers positions you can check the boxes below. You might have to change the "translate values above" as shown in the attached picture.
          7\. Now choose tools/motion brushes - tweak the values
          8\. and voila depending on the force you applied you should see your fingers modifications
          This is as far as I got. Once this is understood drawing with brushes is relatively easy.
          It's really a shame not to be able to use this tool.
          I personally use it by filming the screen with screen flow and use the footage in another program then projected on my large drawings.
          Hope this helps.
          Best,
          David

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          • G
            geemoore
            last edited by

            Hi all
            Does anyone know where I can get emotion?
            Is apple motion the same but a version on? I have that now but it looks a lot different to the tutorials I've seen on line.
            Thanks iav :G)

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            • particlepP
              particlep
              last edited by

              just adding an e makes for quite a difference.  .... links for both.

              motion : https://www.apple.com/uk/final-cut-pro/motion/
              emotion :  http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/
              the apple link will take you to a video special effect package.
              the link at am-cg dot net will take you to an experimental package in which one can generate visuals in real time based on parameters and live inputs.
              hopes this helps.

              isadora v3.0.7
              mbp 2.6ghz i7
              mac osx 10.12.6
              dyslexic.

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              • crystalhorizonC
                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                last edited by

                @particlep yesterdas we have been in the Ars Electronica center in Linz/Austria. There they have a laser tracking system for their 16meter/9 meter floor. For our next performance in Mid November we can use 8 HD projectors for the wall and floor. So I can get Tuio/osc messages from their tracking system. The scaling is from 0 to 1. So your tutorial comes now really handy to test such kind if setup.

                So I tried all your steps:
                Tuio Pad into Osculator works fine
                Osculator to Isadora works fine
                In eMotion I cannot click into message type and select anything (see screenshot)
                There is also no plus button as in the send window.
                For the OSCtransmit actor I choose the same settings in your tutorial, but I dont understand where do I get what to fill out
                 in address.
                Havent opened eMotion for a while, so it wanted to update
                Maybe I can route Tuio directly into eMotion.
                @Mark any news about Tuio implementation in the new Isadora?

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                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                • particlepP
                  particlep
                  last edited by

                  @feinsinn your placing at linz sounds rather wonderful 🙂  really looking forward to what you make there.

                  thank you for your post, so good to know that the tutorials do help.  i too haven't picked up emotion for a while. i think it's something about emotion that the relationship with it becomes a little love hate !
                  so in this time of love ... i notice from your screen shots that you have no patch cord to the transmit of the osc transmit actor. this will be why you are not see in anything in the emotion osc window.  try connecting the trigger output from one of your osc listener actors to the transmit of the osc transmit actor.
                  i think this will cause all things to happen.
                  please please do let me know how you get on. xx

                  isadora v3.0.7
                  mbp 2.6ghz i7
                  mac osx 10.12.6
                  dyslexic.

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                  • crystalhorizonC
                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                    last edited by

                    @particlep thank you for your help! The project is something I did in february this year, you can have a look at this forum post: http://troikatronix.com/community/#/discussion/1064

                    You were completely right: I forgot about the transmit string, thanx for that one! The next message I get that I have a wrong OSCtype, see screenshot

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                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                    • m_theaterM
                      m_theater
                      last edited by

                      @feinsinn

                      emotion does have a couple of drawbacks regarding osc connectivity
                      in our tests the particle were generated the whole time rather then when we sended a message while using the osc routing
                      what we are trying now is to use tuio as the interface for particle generation and osc to modify the layer intensity, scripts etc.
                      concerning your message type problem
                      the current tool is a float,float,float type 
                      see the attached image
                      we hope that we can share our structure soon but it is to messy yet …
                      greetings from berlin
                      o+c.

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                      avk4.net

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                      • particlepP
                        particlep
                        last edited by

                        in returning to emotion this afternoon, i've had to update my version, even though the version i had was the latest version from the website.

                        as ever patience is needed when working with emotion.  
                        i see emotion crashing when i have the incorrect number of inputs to the osc multi transmit actor.
                        earlier this year the multi transmit had 3 input and it worked ok.  http://youtu.be/xGKtgnMA8is?t=43s
                        i did find some inconsistency between motion brushes working with osc input. i cannot say with any conclusive evidence this to be correct.

                        isadora v3.0.7
                        mbp 2.6ghz i7
                        mac osx 10.12.6
                        dyslexic.

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                        • crystalhorizonC
                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                          last edited by

                          @particlep yeah the 3 inputs did the trick! Great thank you so much.

                          I cant get no syphon from eMotion in Isadora. Via Syphoner it works but I have to cut the top. So scaling to a performer could be more tricky.
                          But at this moment the next factor is the stability, if its reliable to use in a performance.
                          Thank you again!
                          All the best,
                          Alex

                          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                          • particlepP
                            particlep
                            last edited by

                            @feinsinn great to hear that the inputs are good.

                            i struggled with syphon from emotion to isadora too.
                            i'll be interested to hear about what you experience with emotion with regard to stability and what direction your artistic decisions take as a result.

                            isadora v3.0.7
                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                            mac osx 10.12.6
                            dyslexic.

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                            • m_theaterM
                              m_theater
                              last edited by

                              @feinsinn,

                              to activate the syphon output
                              you have to go into your prefs and give it a resolution
                              the default entry isn't working
                              then you have to activate the Framebuffer (debug -> use fbo)
                              great that the 3 float trick worked for you
                              best
                              clemens

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                              avk4.net

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                              • crystalhorizonC
                                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                last edited by

                                @m_theater thank you for the hint, syphon works now, great!

                                I´m experience always a crash when clearing a layer. 

                                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                • m_theaterM
                                  m_theater
                                  last edited by

                                  @feinsinn this bothered us the whole last week but we solved this yesterday by a script with a "fadeout + reset" cue

                                  it is strange we thought clearing a layer just means the particle are swopped but and reset is killing all infos but the reverse is true
                                  …

                                  avk4.net

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                                  • particlepP
                                    particlep
                                    last edited by

                                    i've added another video today in answer to :

                                    Is there a way to use osc to continuously generate particles?
                                    http://youtu.be/p8kF51fJjYA

                                    isadora v3.0.7
                                    mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                    mac osx 10.12.6
                                    dyslexic.

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                                    • SkulptureS
                                      Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                      last edited by

                                      @particlep your youtube videos for eMotion are brill thanks!! 

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                                      • crystalhorizonC
                                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                        last edited by

                                        @particlep another fan here of your tutorials!!

                                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                        • particlepP
                                          particlep
                                          last edited by

                                          🙂 thanks guys 🙂

                                          isadora v3.0.7
                                          mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                          mac osx 10.12.6
                                          dyslexic.

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                                          • crystalhorizonC
                                            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                            last edited by

                                            Just wanted to share a little clip of our last rehearsal:
                                            Its our cleaning robot tracked by lasers
                                            Video comes from eMotion, Motion Brush Shake
                                            I get their Tuio messages into my system via Osculator. Then I route it into Isadora and send it to eMotion. Then via Syphon back to Isadora.
                                            Great applause to @particlep for his great tutorials. Wouldnt have managed to do it without them.
                                            Works also great with humans, not only cleaning robots 😉

                                            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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