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    Creating a glow around a person

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    • SkulptureS
      Skulpture Izzy Guru
      last edited by

      I had to use a pre-recorded video of a Kinect depth image but it is basically the same. 7f7d7e-screen-shot-2015-07-27-at-13.45.13.png

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      • MaximortalM
        Maximortal
        last edited by

        question, how do you correct differences between projector lens and kinect lens?

        P.S.: I assume that glow must be projected around the actor in real time

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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          To be honest i've never done it. I imagine you'd just have to resize the output to fit the person and get a 1:1 scale.

          Basic quad output distortion should be able to do this and/or translate XYZ on projector too.

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          • MaximortalM
            Maximortal
            last edited by

            yes you have to resize, but unfortunately is not planar geometry but sferic so if you resize to fit in the center when actor moove to side it go out of position. what i normally do is to create a curved surface (in izzy map) and manually try fit glow in at least 3 pont (center left and right) but this solution is not perfect (to be honest far away from pefection!  🙂 )

            any ideas to do it better?

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            • FredF
              Fred
              last edited by

              Usually we get the camera distortion by running some kind of calibration routine and do the same for the projector. I have used this technique a few times and it works great. There is an easier to implement processing version here

              http://www.genekogan.com/works/kinect-projector-toolkit.html

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              • MaximortalM
                Maximortal
                last edited by

                @Fred I saw that stuff some times ago, and is wonderfull, unfortunately I totally suck with OF and processing....I wish to have it directly into isadora maybe we can include it in new wishlist for Mark  😉

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                • J
                  JetJaguar
                  last edited by

                  Thanks Graham.  Just learned something.  After playing with it seems like the Zoom contrasted against the Desaturate in the Effects mixer and oddly, Motion Blur are instrumental in this scene?  Looking into Fred's suggestion of calibration.  Thanks to the community!

                  Yes calibration in Isadora would be nice.

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                  • SkulptureS
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru
                    last edited by

                    Yeah the motion blur really helps.

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                    • J
                      JetJaguar
                      last edited by

                      Graham.  I'm noticing the kinect is picking up props (not just the person- which makes sense).  Any suggestions?  Anyway to make the glow with the infrared send only?  I'm able to pull in an infrared only send but this set up doesn't achieve the same results with it.

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                      • SkulptureS
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru
                        last edited by

                        You might have to add a "difference" actor into the mix somewhere at the beginning. Im on my other laptop but grab the actor and have a look - you will see what I mean.

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                        • J
                          JetJaguar
                          last edited by

                          Thanks for quick response.  Will try and let you know what I find.  Any thoughts regarding infrared?

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                          • MaximortalM
                            Maximortal
                            last edited by

                            at this moment I'm in a show where i do exactly the same and all is made with ni mate 2 (pro version) even the calibration of the projector. If you are interested I can describe you how

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                            • J
                              JetJaguar
                              last edited by

                              I would be Maximortal.  If you have the time.  We are using processing and I downloaded a projector calibrator that is open source but have been curious about NI Mate 2.

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                              • MaximortalM
                                Maximortal
                                last edited by

                                Ok is a bit raw but powerfull.

                                In ni mate 2 (pro version) hou have to set alignment depth to color, by this way depth data and video data are overlaped. then through spout or syphon get rgb stream into isadora.
                                place a object into center of stage someting simple like a board 
                                then adjust manually the projector (3d enabeled, x rotate, y rotate, y stranslate and so on) until the projected image fit perfectly on real object.
                                move real object to the side of the stage 
                                Into izzy map create a grid layer, usually 3x1 is enough, and move side slices until they fit again real object.
                                now on ni mate change rgb out to ghost out and regulate in ghost rendering options as you need.
                                try to walk trough stage and if something don't fit adjust slices into izzy map.
                                The area where a person should be recognized by kinect is not so wide so this raw, very raw method work pretty well

                                cdc4f9-img_20150919_130438.jpg

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                                • J
                                  JetJaguar
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks Maximortal.

                                  Also thanks Graham.  Difference did the trick!
                                  Thank you Isadora community!!

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                                  • SkulptureS
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                    last edited by

                                    Your welcome.

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