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    Networking question: Syphon over internet?

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    • crystalhorizonC
      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
      last edited by crystalhorizon

      I did this once with the App syphon2network, but the machines where in the same room

      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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      • FredF
        Fred
        last edited by

        The NAT, translation and buffering will not let you use any VPN or virtual LAN. Skype or some streaming service will be your best yet. Streaming services will work pretty well with good internet but you will most likely need a dedicated machine for the encode as it is not efficient. There are some hardware solutions from AXIS and a professional skype hardware box, or even one of the terradeck encoders with a streaming address (just dont make it public) and grab the stream on the other side.

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        • dbiniD
          dbini
          last edited by

          thanks Fred, i shall investigate.

          John Collingswood
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          • MichelM
            Michel Izzy Guru @dbini
            last edited by

            @dbini

            I guess that NDI will do that, but Isadora does not support this yet. https://www.newtek.com/ndi/

            Best Michel

            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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            • MaximeM
              Maxime @Michel
              last edited by Maxime

              @Michel I've been using the SyphontoNDI app which is a good way to use Isadora and NDI

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              • FredF
                Fred
                last edited by

                NDI is local network only

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                • MichelM
                  Michel Izzy Guru @Fred
                  last edited by

                  @Fred

                  On windows there are solutions for over the internet:
                  https://forums.vmix.com/defaul...
                  http://www.sienna-tv.com/ndi/N...

                  Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                  • FredF
                    Fred @Michel
                    last edited by

                    @Michel said:

                    http://www.sienna-tv.com/ndi/N...

                     Wow....seems that it is not available yet though, just some tests.

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                    • dbiniD
                      dbini
                      last edited by

                      ...there's a rumour that SoundJack is being developed to include video. it seems like this is a near-future thing.

                      i've spoken to a friend who is an IT specialist - he suggested a solution that involves setting up something inside a router and using external IPs, which seems like it might work, but, in the context of this installation, I don't have access to the routers, so i think I'm going to have to use an online conferencing solution. When I've experimented with Skype and Isadora before, I found that dealing with the connection using hardware was producing better results than a software solution using CamTwist.

                      John Collingswood
                      taikabox.com
                      2013 MBPR 2.3GHZ i7 OSX11.7.4 16GB
                      & 2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX12.3 16GB

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                      • DusXD
                        DusX Tech Staff
                        last edited by

                        maybe https://obsproject.com offers something helpful.

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                        • M
                          mwasser
                          last edited by

                          http://www.sienna-tv.com/ndi/N...

                          NDI.Cloud is in open beta, and I've found that it works pretty well. I've used it cross-platform with no issue, though they say that it runs better in Mac OS. There are spout/syphon to NDI plugins you can use to get the video stream into it, and I'd recommend using something like Hamachi to set up a tunnel/VPN between your computers. I'm using it to try and replace a video-conference link for a show. I wish I'd done more testing to tell you about, but so far so good. I haven't found a good way to get audio from Isadora into the NDI stream, but I might use VBAN to do a separate audio stream.

                          Win 10, i5 4690K, 16gb RAM, GTX 970

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                          • dbiniD
                            dbini @mwasser
                            last edited by

                            @mwasser - thanks for the information - it looks like this might be a good option - i shall investigate your links and report back. i use SoundJack for realtime audio - its worth checking out if you want a low-latency, high quality audio stream to a specific IP.

                            John

                            John Collingswood
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                            & 2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX12.3 16GB

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