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    Moving images around within a complex projection mapped area.

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      danieljackson
      last edited by

      Hey everybody,

      It seems like there are a few posts addressing what I'm asking about, but they're all a couple years old so I thought I'd see if anyone had any suggestions.

      Essentially, we'd like to send the "output" of one projector into the input of another projector. (I know there aren't literally outputs from projectors, but that's the basic idea.)

      This is so that we can set up relatively complex projection mapping, and then move images around within that mapping without adjusting the mapping itself.

      Stage Setup accomplishes what I'm talking about, to a degree, but we're working with a more complex mapping than Stage Setup seems to allow.

      The way we've been working around this is to send Isadora's stages to MadMapper using syphon, which is a decent solution, but somewhat cumbersome, and we'd like to keep the project within Isadora.

      If anyone has any suggestions about how to implement this, I would appreciate it! Thanks!

      (Alternatively, if anyone has an alternative suggestion for how to move/scale/rotate/etc images within one projector's mapping, that would be great too!)

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      • WolandW
        Woland Tech Staff @danieljackson
        last edited by

        @danieljackson

        What about sending Isadora's stages to itself via Syphon using the Syphon Stage Output and the Syphon Receiver actors?

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        • RussellR
          Russell
          last edited by Russell

          Hi,

          Another option 

          For your complex mapping are you using Issy Map?

          The internal actors that have been used for this stage to stage pipe are the ‘Virtual Stage’ and this can be matched with ‘3D Quad Distort’, both allow independent movement and/or FOV control of ‘stage’ content. The 3D Quad Distort is not linked by a wire, but assigned to the Virtual Stage using the Renderer parameter inputs. The Virtual Stage is then linked to the output projector where your mapping occurs.

          regards

          Russell

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          • crystalhorizonC
            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
            last edited by crystalhorizon

            I would also try it in Izzy Map. Maybe this can help: 

            Have a look at the Zoomer Actor for moving the picture inside the mapper 

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              danieljackson
              last edited by

              hey everybody,

              I haven’t had achance to try these suggestions but they’re all promising, thanks! I’ll report back and let you know what we ended up doing.

              - d.

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              • WolandW
                Woland Tech Staff @crystalhorizon
                last edited by

                Of course I would recommend Izzy Map over Syphon solutions too, depending on your usage case.

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                  danieljackson
                  last edited by

                  Hey,

                  Just a quick update, @Russell 's suggestion was exactly what I needed. To clarify, we had been using IzzyMap and basically needed some way to move videos around within an established mapping. The Virtual Stage and multiple 3D Quad Distort actors (rendering to the same channel) works perfectly so far.

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                  • RussellR
                    Russell @danieljackson
                    last edited by

                    @danieljackson

                    Good to hear that we were able to get you a working solution. 

                    best wishes for your production.

                    Russell

                    Media Arts | James Cook University, Australia | MBP (mid 2015) 2.5GHz i7 16GB AMD Radeon R9 | Mac OS 10.12.5 | Issy 2.5.2

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