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    • C
      Chumcw
      last edited by

      Re: [VR gloves](/topic/2940/vr-gloves)

      Hi, does anyone know how to get data from Perception Neuron (https://neuronmocap.com/) to use in Isadora?  

      Thanks.

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      • SkulptureS
        Skulpture Izzy Guru
        last edited by Skulpture

        It uses TCP protocol so there is a chance it could work.

        This page shows how to set it up via Notch (nothing to do with Isadora) but it does help with generic set up workflow. https://support.neuronmocap.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001952513-Perception-Neuron-Notch-Configuration-

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        • DusXD
          DusX Tech Staff @Chumcw
          last edited by

          @chumcw

          Looking at the documentation there doesn't appear to be any OSC support. They offer tcpip and udp. Isadora does not offer a generic udp interface so only tcp-ip is left as an option. I havent tried to connect to a data stream like this using that actor so I can't give any recommendations. The also offer a c++ sdk. That's a possibility if you are familiar with programming.

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          • DusXD
            DusX Tech Staff
            last edited by

            if going the c++ route this page seem very useful (including the github it links)

            https://neuronmocap.com/forum/...

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              Chumcw
              last edited by

              Thanks Graham & Ryan.  I'm not confident with programming and was hoping there would be some ways to harvest the data into Isadora.   I'll look at the links you provided. 

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              • Tsmall88T
                Tsmall88 @Chumcw
                last edited by

                @Chumcw Hi, just wondering if you had any luck with exploring this connection between the Perception Neuron suit and Isadora? Ta! 

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                • WolandW
                  Woland Tech Staff
                  last edited by

                  I swear I've heard of people using it with Isadora.

                  Failing that, we have native support for the Rokoko Smartsuit Pro in a beta plugin.

                  Best wishes,

                  Woland

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                  • SkulptureS
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru @Woland
                    last edited by

                    @Woland said:

                    I swear I've heard of people using it with Isadora.

                    Failing that, we have native support for the Rokoko Smartsuit Pro in a beta plugin.

                    Best wishes,

                    Woland

                     You might have heard my students asking for it. We have three on site - Roughly two years ago we did a show using The Perception Neuron suit and we investigated it's workflow, we attempted to get the data directly into Isadora but it was not possible/We ran out of time. 

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                    • WolandW
                      Woland Tech Staff @Skulpture
                      last edited by

                      @Skulpture said:

                      we attempted to get the data directly into Isadora but it was not possible/We ran out of time. 😭

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                      • Tsmall88T
                        Tsmall88
                        last edited by

                        @Woland @Skulpture Thank you both for the info! I've got a Perception Neuron Pro suit on it's way out to me, I'll do some experimenting and see if I make any progress - will go down the c++ programming route when time/money permits.

                        And yes, will definitely keep an eye on the Rokoko SmartSuit beta plugin! That's an exciting development. 

                        Thanks again - and please share any other advice you might have as I start my testing! 

                        Tessa

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                        • SkulptureS
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru
                          last edited by

                          @Tsmall88 said:

                          Perception Neuron

                           The hardware/software uses  BVH motion data through TCP/IP or UDP protocol. The documentation is quite good actually. This will help get you started:

                          https://neuronmocap.com/sites/... 

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                          • Tsmall88T
                            Tsmall88 @Skulpture
                            last edited by

                            @Skulpture thank you! 

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                            • Tsmall88T
                              Tsmall88
                              last edited by

                              Hi all, 

                              Just closing the loop on my exploration with the Perception Neuron Pro (2020 model) and Isadora 3. After experimentation in Dec '20, I was able to get real-time XYZ coordinates for each tracker on the PN Pro into Isadora as a separate OSC feed via Unity + an OSC Unity patch. 

                              Data flow = PN Pro tracker > Perception Neuron Pro Studio (w/ Unity Integration https://neuronmocap.com/softwa...) > Unity w/ OSC patch (https://thomasfredericks.githu...) > Isadora via OSC stream.

                              Then used the OSC streams to move some shapes around and influence effects. More testing required to see how useful this is in a live show context, will share project details at a later date!

                              - Tessa

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                              • ArmandoA
                                Armando Beta Gold @Tsmall88
                                last edited by

                                @tsmall88

                                Hello,

                                I've got a non pro model. I did the same route through Unity. But I'd rather not do that. A c++ would new great. If anyone has some hints for that I can test.

                                Thanks 


                                Armando Menicacci

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