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    Audio routing on Mac post Mojave, quicktime and soundflower

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    • bonemapB
      bonemap Izzy Guru @sommerdi
      last edited by

      @sommerdi said:

      Please could you give an idea for what do you use the combination with loopback? Have you already tested Audio hijack?

       Hi, 

      Using the visual interface provided by Loopback made  device routing very efficient and quick to manage. black Hole became a node within the Loopback interface so it too could be configured visually. 

      The suggestion made by @Michel appears to have a similar visual interface to Loopback - so I will have a look at that next.

      Best wishes

      Russell

      http://bonemap.com | Australia
      Izzy STD/USB 3.2.6 | + Beta 3.x.x
      MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | 14.1.2 Sonoma
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      A range of deployable older Macs

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      • kirschkematthiasK
        kirschkematthias
        last edited by

        @bonemap said:

        Black Hole software

         I'm using Dante Via which works fine for me. You can route anything to anything, but it cost $49.99, which is quite a lot, but it is also fully integrated in a Dante Network.

        greetings Matthias

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        • JuriaanJ
          Juriaan Tech Staff
          last edited by

          Second Dante Via, really powerfull software.

          Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
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          • FredF
            Fred @bonemap
            last edited by

            @bonemap I have been using looopback for some time ,It is really great and allows mixing an montior outputs, app targeting (as well as services like voice over). It is very stable and low overhead and the support is great, I would definitely recommend, I am wondering what the combination of blackhole and loopback give you that cannot be done with loopback alone.

            http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
            https://github.com/fred-dev
            OSX 10.15.15 MBP 2019 16" 2.3 GHz 8-Core i9, Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB, 32g RAM
            Windows 10 7700K, GTX 1080ti, 32g RAM, 2tb raided SSD
            Windows 10 Threadripper 3960x 64g ram, 1tb NVME, rtx 2080ti + rtx2070 super

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            • bonemapB
              bonemap Izzy Guru @Fred
              last edited by bonemap

              @fred said:

              I am wondering what the combination of blackhole and loopback give you that cannot be done with loopback alone.

               Possibly nothing - I am just working through as many scenarios as I can think of to test audio device routing and arrive at a final software investment. I just made the observation after installing Black Hole that it appears in a list of selectable nodes in the Loopback interface. So for example Black Hole could be used to route an audio stream into Isadora live capture / frequency analysis e.g Soundcloud and Loopback provides a visual interface to manage multiple discrete outputs such as zoom and headphones. But it looks like this can also be done with more or less ease with either software alone. So there may be no additional advantage with implementing both simultaneously. Dante Via and Audio Siphon also look like they are worth a try out- they are certainly substantially less expensive than Loopback.

              Thanks for your advice, much appreciated.

              Kind Regards,

              Russell

              http://bonemap.com | Australia
              Izzy STD/USB 3.2.6 | + Beta 3.x.x
              MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | 14.1.2 Sonoma
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              • bonemapB
                bonemap Izzy Guru
                last edited by bonemap

                Hi,

                I just want to update this thread with some findings. I have looked into the four audio software solutions that have been suggested previously in the thread. Only one solution provided the raw routing flexibility to be effective with Isadora and OSX 10.15.x in the most use cases. That software is Loopback. The criteria used was a fairly straight forward task. Taking audio from an online stream e.g. SoundCloud and routing that as a live input within Isadora where additional manipulation of the live audio could be undertaken before sending audio to an output device. There were really only two options for achieving this in the tested software: 1/ Black Hole, and 2/ Loopback Audio. Black Hole does not offer an interface and there was no way to separate the output and isolate the audio out from Isadora. Dante Via looked really good, however it has not been released for OSX10.15 yet as far as I could see and I was unable to locate even a trial version with compatibility. Sound Siphon allowed the mixing of various input devices for recording, however I was unable to get it to work on the output side and isolate the audio to be only audio output from Isadora.

                Looks like I will join @Fred as Loopback Audio user. Although, I am gasping for air at the cost with the current exchange rate to US$.


                Kind Regards

                Russell

                http://bonemap.com | Australia
                Izzy STD/USB 3.2.6 | + Beta 3.x.x
                MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | 14.1.2 Sonoma
                Mac Studio 2023 M2 Ultra 128GB | OSX 14.1.2 Sonoma
                A range of deployable older Macs

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                • dbiniD
                  dbini @bonemap
                  last edited by

                  has anyone tried Jack? https://jackaudio.org/

                  John Collingswood
                  taikabox.com
                  2013 MBPR 2.3GHZ i7 OSX11.7.4 16GB
                  & 2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX12.3 16GB

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                  • S
                    sommerdi
                    last edited by

                    it tested it ....  with linux fine, but with 10.15 i failed .... i don't why


                    Diether

                    OSX 10.13.6 / MBP 15 (late 2013) 2,6 GHz i7 , NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB / IZZY 3.0.7
                    OSX 11.6 / MBP 16 2.3 GHz i9 32GB / Radeon 5500 8GB
                    Motu Ultralite MKIII / BM Intensity USB3
                    located in Munich/Germany

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                    • bonemapB
                      bonemap Izzy Guru @sommerdi
                      last edited by

                      @sommerdi said:

                      Have you already tested Audio hijack?

                       I did look into this but decided against investing in Audio Hijack. It is basically the same functionality as Sound Siphon that @Michel suggested. Allows sound sources form different apps and audio hardware to be combined and recorded. Rouge Ameba offered a bundle with Loopback and Audio Hijack but I wasn’t swayed to spend the extra on it.

                      Best Wishes

                      Russell

                      http://bonemap.com | Australia
                      Izzy STD/USB 3.2.6 | + Beta 3.x.x
                      MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | 14.1.2 Sonoma
                      Mac Studio 2023 M2 Ultra 128GB | OSX 14.1.2 Sonoma
                      A range of deployable older Macs

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                      • S
                        sommerdi
                        last edited by

                        i tested this https://jackaudio.org/download...   with OSX 10.15.3 ....  i don't get a connection to a motu microbook & jammr ....  i don't know why .. 

                        Under Linux it is working .....  but the install is not so easy ... with blackhole & OSX not topic ...  

                        i don't tested Audio Hijack    ....  

                        @ Michel .... Do you have already some experiences with soundsyphon for multichannel audio ??  or someone else?? I am very interesting on rerouting like loopback as bonemap described 


                        Diether

                        OSX 10.13.6 / MBP 15 (late 2013) 2,6 GHz i7 , NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB / IZZY 3.0.7
                        OSX 11.6 / MBP 16 2.3 GHz i9 32GB / Radeon 5500 8GB
                        Motu Ultralite MKIII / BM Intensity USB3
                        located in Munich/Germany

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                        • MichelM
                          Michel Izzy Guru @sommerdi
                          last edited by

                          @sommerdi

                          No I have no experiences with multi sound. Its also a few years since I played around with it.

                          Best Michel

                          Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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