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    [ANSWERED] Start Syphon recording from inside a stage?

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    • NotdocN
      Notdoc @jfg
      last edited by

      @jfg


      wow, thanks for quick reply. I'm not quite sure how to get to that point from the github download, but i will try...i may ask more questions here...

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      • NotdocN
        Notdoc @jfg
        last edited by

        @jfg

        it's a bit out of reach for me, i'm afraid... i'm not really adept with coding. I'm mostly an end-user. But thanks anyway

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        • jfgJ
          jfg @Notdoc
          last edited by jfg

          @Notdoc

          in this thread Michel give a link to download the QC composition: https://community.troikatronix...

          Read all the post to correctly install it.

          best

          Jean-François

          • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
          - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
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          - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

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          • NotdocN
            Notdoc @jfg
            last edited by

            @jfg

            cool. thanks v much

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            • NotdocN
              Notdoc @jfg
              last edited by

              @jfg


              Yay! it works! 

              merci de votre assistance. je suis très heureux!

              woohoo

              🙂

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              • NotdocN
                Notdoc @jfg
                last edited by

                @jfg

                Hi Jean-Francois, can i ask a bit more about this?

                I've recreated your User Actor, I'm not quite sure how it works. I'm able to start & stop Syphon recording with "Option+Command+ 'r' ' keyboard commands now (which is great) , but I'm not able to automate the start-stop from within the stage and to assign it to other actors etc.

                thanks

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                • jfgJ
                  jfg @Notdoc
                  last edited by jfg

                  @Notdoc

                  I am not sure to understand where your problem is…

                  if you activate the trigger for record, the record will start. You can use the same trigger to activate something else like a trigger value actor or a player.

                  best

                  Jean-François

                  • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                  - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
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                  - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                  - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                  Located in Bremen, Germany

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                  • NotdocN
                    Notdoc @jfg
                    last edited by

                    @jfg

                    thanks.

                     Is that 'Syphon Recorder 2' Actor your own User Actor? 

                    I have Syphon Receiver' and 'Syphon Stage Output' Actors, but not a 'Syphon Recorder'.


                    I re-created the version you showed previously, but the trigger failed to activate Syphon recording...

                    I feel sure I'm missing something really obvious...

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                    • jfgJ
                      jfg @Notdoc
                      last edited by jfg

                      @Notdoc

                      Yes, it is the user actor I show in my first answer.

                      It could have two causes:

                      - Syphon Recorder must run

                      - you need to activate "Syphon" in Menu Output/Stage setup


                      best

                      Jean-François

                      • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                      - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                      • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                      - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                      - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                      Located in Bremen, Germany

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                      • NotdocN
                        Notdoc @jfg
                        last edited by

                        @jfg

                        thanks, sorry my mistake I didn't understand your second image. Now I do... 

                        But i'm still not having success. Syphon is activated in the Stage prefs, and the 'option+command+'r' keystrokes start recording no problem... but the User Actor I am copying from your example is not working for me. Here it is, maybe I am missing something? 

                        TBH I don't really understand how the actor is supposed to work, as manually flipping the 'Trigger Event' from 'Off' to 'On' doesn't begin recording either. But the keystrokes do. I'm baffled.

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                        • jfgJ
                          jfg @Notdoc
                          last edited by

                          @Notdoc

                           If Syphon Recorder is open and syphon activated in the Stage Setup, the 'option+command+'r' keystrokes works anyway also without any actor.

                          If the manually flipping the trigger Event doesn't work, you haven't correctly installed the QC KeyeventEmulator or there is a problem with authorization in Catalina. or the  QC KeyEventEmulator is 32bit.

                          I use still Mojave on both computer and have no Idea about Catalina.

                          best

                          Jean-François

                          • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                          - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                          • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                          - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                          - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                          Located in Bremen, Germany

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                          • jfgJ
                            jfg @Notdoc
                            last edited by

                            @notdoc

                            QC keyeventemulatoI nstallation

                            There are two different files to download:


                            13d8d0-keyeventemulator.zip 38f248-keyeventemulator.plugin.zip

                            move the KeyEventEmulator to this place :
                            /Library/composition

                            and  the KeyEventEmulator.plugin to this place:
                            /Library/Graphics/Quartz Composer Plug-Ins/

                            • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                            - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                            • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                            - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                            - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                            Located in Bremen, Germany

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                            • NotdocN
                              Notdoc @jfg
                              last edited by Notdoc

                              @jfg

                              ok, so this is not a Syphon problem, it's about getting the Key Event Emulator working. I didn't understand that until now. But I have installed it as you describe...if i understand correctly, this should be here:


                              and this here:


                              and if this Actor looks like this..:


                              ...then Syphon Recorder should be recording, and when it's like this..:


                              ...it should stop..?

                              Currently that isn't happening for me, although the Syphon Recorder is otherwise working fine, switched on, responds to manual keystrokes etc. 

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                              • jfgJ
                                jfg @Notdoc
                                last edited by jfg

                                @notdoc said:

                                and if this Actor looks like this..: ...then Syphon Recorder should be recording, and when it's like this..: ...it should stop..?

                                 Not really. You have to switch the "trigger Event" input to on then to off like you can see in my user actor:

                                Trigger value 1 > Trigger delay > trigger value 0

                                It is a strange behavior of the QC KeyEventEmulator actor, I think it is because it simulate a keyevent. We except a trigger or as you discribe on for record and off for stop. But if you look on the Syphon Recorder you use also the same keystroke for record and stop record. Here it is the same: Record= on then off, stop record=on then off both in a short time (0,1 s)

                                Perhaps it is better to understand with this construction:

                                best

                                Jean-François

                                • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                                - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                                • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                                - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                                - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                                Located in Bremen, Germany

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                                • NotdocN
                                  Notdoc @jfg
                                  last edited by

                                  @jfg

                                  Thanks, I really appreciate the effort you are making with this. 

                                  Unfortunately it is still not working, even after I re-created the nice simple set-up you have shown with the Wave Generator, and the 10Hz square wave. I can see it flipping the on/off but Syphon is not triggered.

                                   Maybe it's a Catalina problem. It's frustrating, as I really need to trigger Syphon recording with more precision than the keystrokes permit, as it will save endless fiddling about in Premiere afterwards.

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                                    jandraka @Notdoc
                                    last edited by

                                    @notdoc

                                    Hi,

                                    You can try this app http://charlie-roberts.com/mid...  that converts midi events into keystrokes. It works in Catalina and triggers the recording in Syphon Recorder.
                                    I hope it helps you.
                                    Javi

                                    MBP M2 Max 32 GB. MacOS 13.4.1 Isadora 3.2.6

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                                    • NotdocN
                                      Notdoc @jandraka
                                      last edited by

                                      @jandraka

                                      thanks, that will be a useful workaround. Very helpful.

                                      But I would still be curious to know if any Catalina users are able to use the QC KeyEventEmulator...

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