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    • WolandW
      Woland Tech Staff
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      Why did they remove the NDI option? 😭

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      • WolandW
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        @Woland said:

        Why did they remove the NDI option? 

         Sadly, I just found out. NDI for Zoom is apparently behind a $200/month paywall 😡

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        • FredF
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          @Woland was it actually ever there? When I install the latest NDI tools on OSX I see NDI video as an input option for zoom. This is inactive - ie there is no image coming in, until I launch the NDI virtual input application, this allows me to choose an NDI stream that I want to be the input. I assume this is what original post was about, it was not inside zoom but it is the NDI virtual camera.

          Current releases of zoom seem to have very broad support for inputs, so virtual cameras, blackmagic devices and the NDI input via the NDI virtual input app work. 

          Be aware that NDI is not that cheap and is CPU bound, so if you want to transmit a GPU heavy scene, it sometimes makes sense to use a capture card even on the same machine, to optimise performance.

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          • FredF
            Fred @Woland
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            @Woland but in that same thread there is a discussion about OBS ninja https://obs.ninja/ demo below 

            Looks like it can solve a lot of other desires for remote performances.

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            • WolandW
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              @Fred

              Yes, I saw that, and I'm looking into it, but I wish Zoom wasn't being an ass about NDI because ZoomOSC is a great tool.

              Edit: I've actually been aware of OBSninja for a number of months. I flagged it a while ago as a software of interest.

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              • FredF
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                @Woland I know, I just finished a project where I was using skype specifically for the NDI output per speaker. Someone is going to have to pay for all those devs and servers. Isadora.ninja would be the ultimate solution.

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                • WolandW
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                  @Fred said:

                  Isadora.ninja would be the ultimate solution.

                  Not sure what you mean here. Like replicating all of OBS ninja's features in Isadora?

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                  • FredF
                    Fred @Woland
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                    @Woland yes an actor to send and receive video over the internet. Obs ninja is an interesting start because it is peer to peer, it does not need a high cost turn server to bounce video. 

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                    • BodoB
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                      like fred said:  "an actor to send and receive video over the internet" would be a real pro feature - I`am searching exactly something like that for an upcoming remote-theatre production to get a good quality video stream from USA to Berlin - good enough quality to do the chromakey by myself in Berlin - and not over there in the USA  - handled by the actor 

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                      • WolandW
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                        @bodo said:

                        like fred said:  "an actor to send and receive video over the internet" would be a real pro feature - I`am searching exactly something like that for an upcoming remote-theatre production to get a good quality video stream from USA to Berlin - good enough quality to do the chromakey by myself in Berlin - and not over there in the USA  - handled by the actor 

                         You should talk to @liminal_andy about Streamweaver.

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                        • BodoB
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                          @woland

                          thanx for the tip!

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