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    Epoccam Feature Requests for Kinoni?

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    • crystalhorizonC
      crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
      last edited by

      @kinoni just tested the syphon viewer with my IPad 4 Retina, works great with Isadora. Thank you so much.

      @mark syphon to video actor works, but syphon to image doesnt seem to work right. But there is always the possibility of the video to image actor.
      Managed to run Epoccam (IPad4) and AirBeam (IPhone4) at the same time. http://youtu.be/qMwBs5r9dPQ

      Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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      • KinoniK
        Kinoni
        last edited by

        Everyone, thanks for the positive comments and feedback. That gives us motivation to make our software more useful for Isadora users. As interesting as the multi-cam support and other features are to implement, we also need to think about financial side. As I said before we need to create a iPhone / Android app for multi-camera support and other features discussed in this thread. It will be free to try but to unlock all the features customers need to pay for something. Any comments what would be reasonable price tag for a product with 4 camera support and other features discussed in this thread?

        In this thread I can see people want at least
        -multi-cam support (almost done, will released soon)
        -OSC
        -USB support (with 1080p support)
        -higher framerates (60 or 120 frames per second)
        What is your priority order, what features are most needed? We can then implement those first.
        @Skulpture. Thanks for the feedback. You might want to wait for multi-camera support before mentioning our app in your blog.
        @particlep: Could be network bandwidth issue as well. We need to add settings to limit needed bandwidth.
        @rainbow: Good to hear it works since this is just our first public try-out.
        @feinsinn: Multicam is coming soon. For OSC we probably add features release by release, based on what users want.
        @jhoepffner: Thanks, we believe we have the best quality and lowest bandwidth requirement. I agree that bandwidth / resolution should be adjustable. Added to our TODO-list.
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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          Thanks @Kinoni

          In terms of priority I would personally say in the order you have listed them 🙂

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          • Bill CottmanB
            Bill Cottman
            last edited by

            @Kinoni Is Epoccam compatible with SKYPE 6.6.0.467 on MBP OSX Lion 10.7.5 & iPhone OS 7.0.4? Back in July when this thread started there was an issue. sorry for the slightly off topic question.

            http://www.BillCottman.com : Isadora3.0.8f09 with MBP OS X 10.11.6 in Minneapolis, MN

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            • R
              Rick
              last edited by

              Just an observation on Multi-Cam support. It's currently possible on a Mac. Just duplicate the Syphon Viewer, open one phone and one viewer so that they connect, then open the other viewer and cam and they will connect. The only thing is that the two cameras are identically named within the Syphon actor, but otherwise it's great!

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              • KinoniK
                Kinoni
                last edited by

                @vanderzee It still does not work. Looks like Skype for OS X has changed the way it uses webcam, basically using newer webcam-API. This is something we are already working on, but can't promise you any dates when it is available.

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                • jhoepffnerJ
                  jhoepffner
                  last edited by

                  Hello,

                  For me EpoccamHD with Syphon is working fine, but it would be good to have the possibility to use the free one without logo, because it's more stable with wifi.
                  I revote for the possibility to change definition and framerate (like in Ai....m…)
                  But I like the possibilities of Epoccam.
                  Jaques Hoepffner

                  Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
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                  • KinoniK
                    Kinoni
                    last edited by

                    All, thanks for the feedback. As requested we have now added feature to change video resolution. EpocCam free version only supports 640x480, paid version supports also 1280x720 and soon-to-be-published multicamera version also supports 352x288. To change resolution just start viewer as normal and wait for iPhone to connect. A new menu will appear called 'Camera1'. That menu will list all available resolutions and allows changing them. After choosing new resolution client will be briefly disconnected and reconnected with desired resolution. Link to new drivers:

                    [http://kinoni.com/osxviewerpro](http://kinoni.com/osxviewerpro)
                    All feedback is very welcome, the app most probably has some bugs.
                    Next steps are to publish multi-camera version and then we will look into OSC support. Will keep you updated.
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                    • S
                      stj
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                      Worked very well for me, thank you!

                      Setting up a local wireless network improved stability a lot - 1h non-stop with EpocCam HD today without problems.
                      A feature request:
                      Would it be possible to regulate the intensity of the light? At the moment image quality suffers when close to the object due to the strong light.
                      Best, Stephan
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                      • KinoniK
                        Kinoni
                        last edited by

                        @stj

                        Thanks for the feedback Stephan. We haven't really done any changes to improve stability, but using lower resolutions surely makes the connection more stable. Edit: I misread your comment, surely having a non-crowded network improves connection stability.
                        I think intensity of light is also called exposure? Controlling exposure is supported on some newer devices, so basically we can have auto-exposure (used currently), auto-adjust once and then lock it or lock it to certain position in camera feed. We will implement this feature to some coming release.
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                          stj
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                          @ kinoni

                          I actually was referring  to the iPhone flash light - it would be useful to control the intensity to get more control over illumination of the filmed scene.
                          Best Stephan
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                          • KinoniK
                            Kinoni
                            last edited by

                            @stj

                            That is doable as well on latest devices. iPhone app user interface will be cramped if we add all the settings there, now I see the benefits of using OSC to control various capture parameters.
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                            • KinoniK
                              Kinoni
                              last edited by

                              EpocCam multicamera application is now available on iTunes and some forum members are already testing it. Looking forward to hear their experiences. Here is the link:

                              https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/epoccam-multicam/id766396205?ls=1&mt=8
                              We have three more promo codes to share with forum users in exchange for feedback. Just reply to this thread and fastest ones will get the app for free. Thanks.
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                              • crystalhorizonC
                                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                last edited by

                                Got it, thanx for the code! two cameras worked, Ipad 4 retina and Iphone 4. Will test with one Ipad and Iphone more for 4 inputs. Greet work!

                                Cheers,
                                Alex

                                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                  Aolis
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello all,

                                  I just downloaded the newest version of the Multicam app, the Viewer Pro, and the Mac beta drivers.
                                  I was able to get the two video streams, one from my IPhone 5 and one from my iPad going in no time and then had the video going into Isadora via Syphon with no problems.
                                  I am currently working on Mavericks on a MacMini and a demo version of the current pre-release of Isadora.
                                  I did not see any logos on either camera. There was a very handy WiFi meter displayed on the screen of my phone and iPad that seemed to be responsive and accurate (in that their behavior matched the quality of the video coming through.)
                                  There were choices for different resolutions for each camera. I did find that the video started lagging when I put it up to full quality but this was clearly an issue of my local network. Kicking it down to 640x480 I had a fairly low latency (as good as I would hope of a wireless network) and there was not additional lag between the EpocCam Viewer and Isadora's Syphon stream.
                                  Excellent work!!!! Now that it is working on my system this is going to be goto for wireless video.

                                  Media Artist & Teacher
                                  Trashcan Late 2012, Mojave / MacBook Pro 2019 5600M, Catalina

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                                    Aolis
                                    last edited by

                                    Worth mentioning is that in the viewer window the multiple video signals seem to be displayed in a "picture in picture" type method. Clicking on the small inset image swaps its place with the larger image.  There did not seem to be a clear way of designating which video camera was listed as Camera 1, 2, 3, or 4. . . So I'm not sure if ordering of cameras will be easily maintained between sessions or you will have to make sure to turn everything on in a certain order OR repatch which camera is going where at the beginning of each session. . .will look into this and get back.

                                    Media Artist & Teacher
                                    Trashcan Late 2012, Mojave / MacBook Pro 2019 5600M, Catalina

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                                    • KinoniK
                                      Kinoni
                                      last edited by

                                      @feinsinn
                                      Good to hear it works, whenever releasing new software there is always a chance it doesn't work.

                                      @Aolis

                                      Thanks for sharing your experiences. There are no logos since it is paid application, we only put the watermark to free version 🙂 HD video takes quite a bit bandwidth, currently configured to two megabits per second. Changing bitrate could be easily controlled by OSC in the future version.
                                      Logic between video in windows is that big window is always camera 1 in Syphon and smaller "picture in picture" windows are from left to right camera 2, camera 3 and camera 4\. So if you click rightmost small window (camera 4) then camera 1 and camera 4 outputs are switched.
                                      Currently application saves video resolution for each device (based on their IP address). So each time you reconnect for example certain iPhone 4, it will be configured to use the video size you set earlier. As you said camera assignment order is not saved, if you want them to be in certain order you can either open iOS apps one by one in order (device you want to be camera 1 first, then device for camera 2 etc) or change the camera assignment by clicking the "picture in picture" cameras.
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                                      • CitizenJoeC
                                        CitizenJoe
                                        last edited by

                                        Sounds exciting!
                                        I tried it, hoping that it would fix my "grey screen problems", but then realized that it is MAC only.
                                        Any chance of a Windows version?

                                        Cheers,
                                        Hugh

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                                        2. old desktop: Dell T5500 2009, Dual Quad Core Processor E5530, 12 gigs, 2x Radeon 5750... Still works well!
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                                        • KinoniK
                                          Kinoni
                                          last edited by

                                          @CitizenJoe

                                          Multicamera for Windows is certainly doable. I wonder how does Isadora video input work on Windows as there is no Syphon framework available. Adding Syphon was very simple, multicam on Windows could be a lot of work. If we implement that or not depends on how popular Mac-version will be.
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                                          • markM
                                            mark
                                            last edited by

                                            Dear Kinomi,

                                            Isadora for Windows uses standard DirectShow drivers for Video Input. There isn't Syphon for Windows (well, there's "Wyphon" but it only works on some cards... it's not a universal solution.) In any case, there's a Windows app that makes the video coming from a Kinect camera appear to be a webcam. It works really well.
                                            The source code is available, so maybe that's a place to start investigating. It's called "OpenNI 2 Virtual Webcam." The page for the app is here: http://falahati.net/my-projects/95-openni-2-virtual-webcam-v0-9-directshow-filter-for-openni#.UqR7Pyi9djE
                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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