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    Epoccam Feature Requests for Kinoni?

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    • KinoniK
      Kinoni
      last edited by

      All, when connecting multiple devices do you see high CPU loads? If yes, is it an issue? My guess is that we could cut video processing CPU usage by 50% but that requires lots of work. So if it is not an issue right now, we'll do it later.

      @Skulpture

      Some thoughts on WiFi performance. Updating to latest Apple Airport Extreme WiFi base station will immediately boost network speed. Definitely it is better to connect Mac to router via cable to reduce network load. Also make sure router uses less crowded 5 GHz band.
      Would USB-connection help here? Or are iOS devices physically far away from Mac?
      @mark
      Cool, we already have DirectShow-plugin for Windows. Multicamera still would need some work. Can you share any statistics what percentage of Isadora users are running Windows and Mac?
      @jhoepffner
      Thanks for posting the workaround, we will fix the bug for next release.
      @rainbow
      Thanks for feedback.
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      • R
        Rick
        last edited by

        @Skulpture & @Kinoni - I'm going to be doing some testing on an existing project with 2 cams today and will report back, but I'm already using a wifi router. My cam distances require it, and I'm sure for speeds it's better. So the Izzy mac is hard wired to the fastest router I could get, with a fixed IP, and the only things on the network are the two cams. I'm connecting one only a couple of meters away, but the other one is 20 meters away and through walls.

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        • CitizenJoeC
          CitizenJoe
          last edited by

          Hey, WINDOWS users: anyone else getting a grey screen (similar to the attached picture) as the complete signal from the iPhone, or is it just me? This is EpocCam HD on Windows 7 Pro, using the latest Windows drivers (v2.8.1).

          I'm actually curious about the MAC-Windows split, too!

          Thanks,
          Hugh
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          Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.

          1. new laptop: Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6
          2. old desktop: Dell T5500 2009, Dual Quad Core Processor E5530, 12 gigs, 2x Radeon 5750... Still works well!
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          • MichelM
            Michel Izzy Guru
            last edited by

            @Kinoni

            Tested the multicam and everything seams to work as it should. One thing I would like to see is that the computer can be wired or wifi (same network). This would save bandwidth do you think thats possible? For example TouchOSC doesn't care if wired or wifi or iTeleport.

            Best
            Michel

            Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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            • KinoniK
              Kinoni
              last edited by

              @Michel

              Not sure if I understood what you mean but you should be already able to connect Mac to router wirelessly (wifi) or via network cable (wired). Are you saying cable-connection does not work if you disable wifi from your Mac?
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              • S
                stj
                last edited by

                @ Kinoni

                I have just tested EpoCam HD in rehearsals and performances on an ad-hoc network. Works well. However, on an iphone (any smartphone?) you need to take out the SIM card, otherwise EpoCam looses the network connection when you receive a phone call.

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                • MichelM
                  Michel Izzy Guru
                  last edited by

                  @Kinoni

                  You are right, the last time I checked it (quite a while ago) it did not work. And the message "disconnected from wireless network" maked me think it is still the same. But it does work.

                  Best
                  Michel

                  Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                  • KinoniK
                    Kinoni
                    last edited by

                    @stj

                    This is a known limitation on iOS, apps cannot access camera while on background. I guess it is the same with Android. A workaround for removing SIM card could be to first turn on airplane mode and then turn on WiFi.
                    @Michel
                    You are right, the text is misleading. Good that wired connection works now, I cannot even test it myself with MacBook Air 🙂
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                    • A
                      Aolis
                      last edited by

                      Thank you for the feedback on how the wireless logic works! On my phone I've been able to simply put it in airplane mode and then turn the Wi-Fi back on and am no longer interrupted by calls. No need to remove the Sim card. I haven't noticed the access CPU load is being a problem but if I started using this in more complicated projects that would definitely be something that would getting my way. Again thank you so much for this amazing app!!!

                      Media Artist & Teacher
                      Trashcan Late 2012, Mojave / MacBook Pro 2019 5600M, Catalina

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                      • crystalhorizonC
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                        last edited by

                        @kinoni had a rehearsal yesterday with 2 iphones, worked really well. so for a performance I´m thinking to get a wifi router to have a safer signal. Is there one you can recommend?

                        The flightmode trick works also, thanx!

                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                        • KinoniK
                          Kinoni
                          last edited by

                          @feinsinn I am no network expert but here are some tips. As mentioned above you should use less crowded 5 GHz frequency band, so if you are buying a router check that it supports separate 5 GHz network. I guess in rehearsal there are not so many wireless devices interfering as during a performance with audience, so connection quality is likely to get worse. Using lower resolutions will help here as they use less bandwidth.

                          Good luck with the performance, I'm feeling some pressure here if the app crashes in the middle 🙂
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                          • SkulptureS
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru
                            last edited by

                            I think @feinsinn will be the first user to use the app is a true performance setting. Will be interesting to see how it goes 🙂

                            Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                            RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                            RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                            RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                            • jhoepffnerJ
                              jhoepffner
                              last edited by

                              Dear Skulpture,

                              I think he is not the first one! I used it for a performance November 17… I first used AirBeam Pro before and I had problem with WiFi (same with Kinoni) but principally with the way AirBeam works with orientation, trying to correct and adapt vertical or horizontal view.
                              The way I use it now is avoiding HD (too much bandwith) and putting the WiFi router on stage (link to the computer via RJ45), with a visual contact to the iPod. There is some glitch and a little delay, but the performer is acting like using a real iPhone, so everything right. It's important to avaoid the double WiFi (iPod to router and router to computer). The show is on tour now, and there is no hotline call from the technician… I send a picture who illustrate it.
                              Happy new year.
                              Jacques Hoepffner

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                              Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                              GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                              MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                              MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                              MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                              • jhoepffnerJ
                                jhoepffner
                                last edited by

                                you can also watch a teaser here (in French…)

                                https://vimeo.com/81502752

                                Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
                                MSI GS65 i7 3.6 Ghz 32 Go / GTX 1070 8 Go / Windows 10 / Izzy 3.0.3b2

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                                • R
                                  Rick
                                  last edited by

                                  Ah, you have me beat by a week Jacques! My project opened on Nov 26 with two iPhones. Photo attached.

                                  Happy New Year from the south of France,
                                  Rick

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                                  • KinoniK
                                    Kinoni
                                    last edited by

                                    @[jhoepffner](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/15/jhoepffner), @[Rick](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/4822/Rick) 
                                    That is so cool to see how your app is actually used! Thanks a lot for posting photos and videos.
                                    Related to performance in general we have noticed that newer iPhones work better in general - there is a big difference between for example iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 in delay (faster video processing and network), quality (camera hardware) and stability (no CPU overload causing network timeouts). Also our other iOS test devices such as iPad 2 and iPod touch (4th generation) much perform worse than iPhone 5\. Upgrading iOS hardware is surely expensive but might be worth trying if delay is an issue.
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                                    • SkulptureS
                                      Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                      last edited by

                                      Sorry @jhoepffner only just seen this now.

                                      Didn't know about your piece - Looks great!

                                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                      RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                                      RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                                      RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                      • S
                                        stj
                                        last edited by

                                        @ Kinoni
                                        Just received my new iphone 5S. Works well in terms of speed, colors and stability, but the quality in low-light situations is much worse than the 4S and 5 models (video is much, much darker). It seems to be a software problem, because the MoviePro app allows me to use the 5S video mode perfectly in low light conditions.
                                        Your MultiCam app works beautifully with my 2 cameras in HD quality, by the way 🙂
                                        Best, Stephan

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                                        • KinoniK
                                          Kinoni
                                          last edited by

                                          @stj

                                          Thanks for pointing out the issue in low-light situations. Looks like Apple recently added "low light boost" option to latest iPhones, we will experiment with that option to see if it makes any difference. Would you like to have it always enabled or is it better to have an option to enable it manually?
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                                          • S
                                            stj
                                            last edited by

                                            @ Kinoni

                                            Thanks for your quick reply!
                                            Many lighting situations in theater are "low light", but not all of them - my guess is that that a manual option would be sufficient for most of us. Maybe someone else wants to comment?
                                            Best, Stephan

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