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    Isadora Exercises for theatre directors

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    • eightE
      eight
      last edited by

      OK, so far I have this list of exercises:

      1\. Color [Tracking](http://vjskulpture.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/simple-colour-tracking-in-isadora/) using a PS3 EYE or built in cam.
      2\. Kinect as a video cam (RGB and depth, with depth cut-offs), using Quartz Composer kinect patch
      3\. Kinect as a distance meter and a DMX interactive light (thanks @feinsinn), using Quartz Composer kinect patch, USB to DMX adapter
      4\. Arduino + [HC-SR04](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BOLRP8E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) ultrasonic distance meter + video player controlled by distance to an object. [REF](http://www.instructables.com/id/Simple-Arduino-and-HC-SR04-Example/) -- need to learn to interface arduino with Isadora.
      5\. Theremin (hope to borrow one from the Moscow Theremin Center) to control some video effect (plus perhaps ableton live -- do not know yet how to interface the theremin I might be getting)
      6\. [Syphon Screen Capture](http://v002.info/plugins/v002-screen-capture/) to input from videos from youtube/skype.
      7\. [Syphon as an interface to a DSLR](http://createdigitalmotion.com/2013/11/powerful-syphon-tricks-streaming-screen-captures-mapping-live-canon-slr-cameras/)
      8\. OSC messaging Isadora from a smartphone (TouchOSC on IOS, android --???)
      9\. Streaming from a smartphone camera into Isadora (EpocCam on IOS, android -???)
      10\. Using pulsecontroller as [a MIDI input](http://www.askaudiomag.com/articles/review-turn-your-table-into-a-midi-instrument-with-pulse-controller) into Isadora to control some effect.
      11\. Hacking PS3 EYE to accept only infrared light, infrared tracking of actors using IR lit background (two regular lights with IR filters -- what filters should I get ???)
      12\. Using infrared light and infrared camera to create "tunnels through walls" (IR camera picks up the IR light reflected from walls and uses that blob as a mask on the video projected on the wall).
      13\. Using rotary encoder and Arduino, create a dynamic projection mapping of a rotating object.
      The requirement here is to use off the shelf free software and cheap hardware.
      Any comments, suggestions how to improve this set would be appreciated. 
      The least certain items for me are 
      #3: What hardware should I use (DMX adapter, DMX dimmer, perhaps some non-DMX hardware, keeping in mind the requirement of cheap and free).
      #4: Perhaps some cheapo theremin can be made based on arduino -- how about interfacing it with Isadora?
      #9: What's the current best app for that? (free/cheap)
      --8

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      • vanakaruV
        vanakaru
        last edited by

        1. I would not bother with real theremin. Use Arduino with photo or proximity or capacitance sensor instead. These are pretty easy and simple to program either to output serial>USB or MIDI(with USB MIDI dongle) to talk to Isadora.
        For instance ALESIS AirFX uses IR send-receive to get pretty good theremin like effect. The same is possible with Arduino.
        9) EpocCam

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        • BodoB
          Bodo
          last edited by

          1. dmx adapter: entec dmx usb pro http://www.enttec.com/?main_menu=Products&pn=70304
            or the cheapest is: http://dmxking.com/usbdmx/ultradmxmicro
            cheapest dimmer: http://www.musikhaus-korn.de/en/Showtec-Multidim-MKIII-4-Channel-DMX-Dimmerpack.html
            cheapest led-dmx lamp: http://www.musikhaus-korn.de/en/LED-PAR-56-Spot-ECO-kurz-schwarz.html

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          • eightE
            eight
            last edited by

            Thanks @vanakaru and @Bodo.

            Your point about theremin is well taken @vanakaru, but I am talking about it in the theory section, where I also present a show I did with the theremin, which was, besides sound, used as a proximity sensor -- so I want to show theremin itself, and use it the way I did in the show.
            --8

            Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
            Twitter: https://twitter.com/eight_io | Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eight_io/
            Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
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            • vanakaruV
              vanakaru
              last edited by

              About the real theremin: it may be rather interesting to use theremins cap sensor(antenna) to control something in the computer. But then you need Arduino(or similar) to digitize the sensor. The same would be to utilize theremins 2 ocillators. So it is all analog thus you need to digitize what ever you try. Like taking sound via mic, analyzing frequency, controlling something in Isadora with that data.

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              • crystalhorizonC
                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                last edited by

                I have a moog theremin with CV out. Always wanted to use that output to generate interactive stuff. But you find much more hardware midi to cv, but not the other way round as I would need it. Or better would be: CV to OSC.

                Can I use my Arduino One for the CV from the Moog Theremin? Would really be great when I could get nice numbers into Isadora...

                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                • vanakaruV
                  vanakaru
                  last edited by

                  @feinsinn

                  CV seems to stay between 1-5V. Arduino can cope with 5V from analog input. I think it is doable.

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                  • crystalhorizonC
                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                    last edited by

                    @vanakaru as I have no idea about Arduino programming, is there something I can look for: website, links, etc...

                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                    • vanakaruV
                      vanakaru
                      last edited by

                      Take a look at this

                      http://www.csounds.com/journal/issue18/eurorack.html

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                      • crystalhorizonC
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                        last edited by

                        Great link, thank you!

                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                        • FredF
                          Fred
                          last edited by

                          Or if you want a fast cheat plug the theremin into your audio input and use frequency watcher.

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                          • crystalhorizonC
                            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                            last edited by

                            @Fred so simple and genius!

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                            • eightE
                              eight
                              last edited by

                              @Fred: Thanks. That's a great suggestion.

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                              • crystalhorizonC
                                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                last edited by

                                @eight can you share the theremin frequency watcher patch if you are going to do it? I cant get it working right

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                                • eightE
                                  eight
                                  last edited by

                                  @feinsinn: I have a word from the Theremin Center in Moscow that they will help me set it up, I don't know what kind of equipment they will offer, but if something useful comes out of it, I will let you know. This will happen closer to the end of December.

                                  --8

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                                  • crystalhorizonC
                                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                    last edited by

                                    @eight thank you for keeping us updated

                                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                    • Paulo_RosaP
                                      Paulo_Rosa
                                      last edited by

                                      About the DMX controller, I have used both these links and they worked fine with my Macbook Pro.

                                      http://stevenbreuls.com/2013/05/diy-usb-dmx-dongle-interface-for-under-10/
                                      http://stevenbreuls.com/2014/03/diy-usb-dmx-controller-for-under-10_2_ethernet_cable/
                                      However I never used Izzy to control DMX (yet)….
                                      Another fun experiment is with Wiimotes and OSCulator… I used one to control a 3D environment.
                                      Also, I second the Epoccam route… it's a great app with little to none delay. Also, they have an app called multicam which gives you the ability to use 4 devices.

                                      My RIG: MacBook Pro 13" 2.3 GHz i5 - Mavericks / iPad 2 3G 64Gb / iPhone 4S 64Gb
                                      Canon T4i / Arduino Uno R3 + a lot of sensors

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                                      • eightE
                                        eight
                                        last edited by

                                        @Paulo_Rosa: Thanks, those are great links. Building the usb-dmx converter could be an exercise in itself, should I have more time.

                                        --8

                                        Analysis: http://post.scriptum.ru | Synthesis: http://onewaytheater.us
                                        Twitter: https://twitter.com/eight_io | Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eight_io/
                                        Github: https://github.com/eighteight | MulchCam: https//mulchcam.com
                                        MulchTune: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mulch-tune/id1070973465 | Augmented Theatre: https://augmentedtheatre.com

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                                        • crystalhorizonC
                                          crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                          last edited by

                                          I used DMX King with Isadora. Works great and is cheap.

                                          Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                          • SkulptureS
                                            Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                            last edited by

                                            Wiimotes and OSCulator is always fun! 

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