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    • SkulptureS
      Skulpture Izzy Guru
      last edited by

      I never saved that patch it was a quick demo I did for some ex students but it something along these lines.... (open in a new tab its quite big) 0c5c98-screen-shot-2013-03-13-at-08.54.37.png

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      • eightE
        eight
        last edited by

        @Skulpture I noticed in your video that the mask has a nicely defined smooth edge, compared to what raw data from kinect will give you. Do Gaussian Blur and Motion Blur do that, or NI Mate? What happens without the Blur filters?

        Thanks.
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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          Yeah it nearly always needs some blur.

          I used to knock old CCTV cameras out of focus slightly to get similar results rather than adding blur in the software. But with ever increasing faster machines i started adding it into the software. Normally Gaussian Blur on 1 or 2 works nicely.

          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
          RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
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          • DavidD
            David
            last edited by

            Hi Guys,
            Thanks to @Skulpture I was able to create this new interactive piece : Indicible Camouflage
            I'm presenting it next week to a jazz event and I realise that in Ni Mate only the active user's alpha in active.
            Is there a way to capture all alphas no matter how many peaple stand infront of the devise ?

            Thank you all for your great knowledge !

            David

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            • SkulptureS
              Skulpture Izzy Guru
              last edited by

              Glad i've helped you David. Be sure to take some pictures and I wil put them on my blog.

              🙂

              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
              RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
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              • DavidD
                David
                last edited by

                Thanx @Skulpture I will do so !!

                🙂
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                • brunoB
                  bruno
                  last edited by

                  Hello Sculpture, i tried your patch but instead of the syphon actors , I used kinnect actor and the kinnect. My goals is to project video on a dancer. Do you think it's possible with the kinnect? Wher can I find the QC syphon actors? I send you a picture of my patch, just have a look on the right side.

                  Thank you for all your work
                  Best wiches
                  Bruno

                  b87947-kinnect.tiff

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                  • SkulptureS
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru
                    last edited by

                    @bruno

                    It looks like you will need a threshold actor - this will boost the white and make the black/grey more black. (if that makes sense?)
                    Out it directly after the output from the Kinect Actor.

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                    • C
                      cocoberdu
                      last edited by

                      hello everybody.

                      i have some troubles to use the kinect with my new mac book pro. 
                      i have nimate license but it crashed at launch , like synapse....
                      i plugged the kinect on the usb3 on my mac and i think its the problem.
                      but i dont have any other usb2 port.....
                      do you know a solution about that?
                      thats a lot

                      mbp i5;16 go, osx 10.9.4, isadora 1.5.3f28
                      website: www.desequilibres.com

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                      • FredF
                        Fred
                        last edited by

                        I use a kinect on a new macbook with only USB3 ports and no problems.

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                        • ArmandoA
                          Armando Beta Gold
                          last edited by

                          Me too no problems


                          Armando Menicacci

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                          Macbook pro 16 inches 2022 64 GB RAM, M1 MAX. OS 14 Sonoma

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                          • SkulptureS
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru
                            last edited by

                            It won't be the USB ports. It will be software/driver related.

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                            • C
                              cocoberdu
                              last edited by

                              ok thanks for your answers. .....

                              mbp i5;16 go, osx 10.9.4, isadora 1.5.3f28
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                              • zanettiZ
                                zanetti
                                last edited by

                                @Skulpture
                                Hi, regarding your screenshot I wanted to know if the video actors are gpu based and if so, because of the core video plugin?

                                I have a similar arrangement with my kinect. But becuase its all vid-cpu obviously its very laggy.
                                It's gonna be a big projection, video-installation project. So its quite crucial, that the resolution is the maximum.
                                I would be probably able to borrow a new mac pro for the exhibition, but it seems weird to me that my computer can only make 6-10 fps.

                                The isadora project won't exceed this two video layers and the alpha mask probably. so its fairly simple. its just the performance, which disturbs me.
                                and second question: is this gone with izzy 2? Because my uni owns the v1 license and it would be probably worth to upgrade for that 125$...

                                Thanks for helping!!!

                                Leo

                                I have MBP early 2011, i7 2,2 GHz with an ATI Radeon 6750M 1GB and 16GB Ram.
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                                • SkulptureS
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi,

                                  Yes the screen shot of mine from March 2013 is all CPU based; I don't think I even had access to much GPU stuff back then; or if I was I was under strict orders from the boss not to tell anyone. 🙂
                                  You do want to keep it as much GPU as possible. But it can get complicate; because there is no GPU alpha mask actor just yet so you'd need to convert it to CPU again. 
                                  But the movies themselves could be the new version 2.0 players which should help frame rates - with the right h264 codec.
                                  I get a lot of questions, emails and PM's about this topic so it may be time to revisit it and give it a refresh.
                                  I am not sure what you mean by _"__and second question: is this gone with izzy 2"_ - is what gone? Sorry, not following.
                                  Hope this helps for now.

                                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                  RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                                  RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
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                                  • zanettiZ
                                    zanetti
                                    last edited by

                                    oh what I meant is, if version 2 of isadora (I though you're all calling it izzy :)) is not gonna have this kind of problems because more actors are gpu based.

                                    so the core video upgrade is good for what exactly? For better hardware acceleration in some specific actors I suppose?
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                                    • markM
                                      mark
                                      last edited by

                                      @zanetti

                                      Two points:
                                      1) In Isadora 2.0, the Core Video and Core Audio upgrade are both included -- all of those features are part of 2.0
                                      2) The reason Core Video upgrade is still important is mostly because it allows you to use Quartz Composer patches as Isadora plugins.
                                      Best Wishes,
                                      Mark

                                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
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                                      • zanettiZ
                                        zanetti
                                        last edited by

                                        I finally got the isadora 2 upgrade and like you mentioned before, as there is no alpha gpu based effect, I can't get so much speed advantage out of the new version.
                                        I'll try to find a workaround for mixing those to layers with an alpha layer.

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                                        • zanettiZ
                                          zanetti
                                          last edited by

                                          @mark regarding your 2) point. Would it be possible to build a gpu-based alpha mask patch in QC and then use it in Isadora?
                                          And is there a list of all the gpu based actors?
                                          Sorry for my newbie kind of questions. Im just beginning in this field.

                                          best wishes

                                          Leo

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                                          • markM
                                            mark
                                            last edited by

                                            No need to build it in QC. You can use the Core Image actors. Generally speaking, they all run on the GPU just like FFGL.

                                            CI Blend with Mask to get you what you want.
                                            You'll need three images - the foreground, the background, and the mask. The mask image should be black and white (or grey for transparency.)
                                            See snapshot of a patch in action to get the arrangement.
                                            Note that the CI Constant Color always needs a CI Crop actor to define its size. I'm also using the CI Mask To Alpha to convert the solid black color to transparent (i.e., 0 alpha.)
                                            Hope that helps,
                                            Mark

                                            4af32f-mask-with-ci.png b20e5b-ci-mask-patch.izz

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
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