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    What best video codec to show video with embedded Alpha Channels?

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    • vanakaruV
      vanakaru
      last edited by

      I have preferred PNG+(with alpha) for years. Now ProRes4444 is the best.

      Actually HAP works rather well on my system. If I remember right DXV alpha is working outside Resolume too(not 100% sure though).

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      • DusXD
        DusX Tech Staff
        last edited by

        Yes dxv works. Although it's as large as hap and runs more like photojpeg outside Resolume. HAP alpha is far superior in Isadora.

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        • MikhailM
          Mikhail
          last edited by

          Thanks for your Answers
          I've tried to export to  ProRes & HAP. 
          I use Edius to render video-clip with alpha. Unfortunately, i can't found nor Prores, or HAP format to export. 
          On Edius forum i've found this: "The Windows version of QuickTime does not support encoding to ProRes, it only supports decoding."
          I made export window screenshot. I can use only PC-based Applications. What you recommend? 

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          • MikhailM
            Mikhail
            last edited by

            PS. For QuickTime format I've found DVX 3 & DVX codecs with Alpha support, but seems Isadora doesnt use Alpha channel. Video shows as normal - transparent areas shows as black. 😞 (I also attach QuickTime videocodec windows screenshot) 3ccf53-dvx.png 74fce5-dvx3.png

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            • jhoepffnerJ
              jhoepffner
              last edited by

              prores is difficult on windows but it's doable, there is some non very official software doing it.

              Normally you can install HAP codec on windows
              https://github.com/vidvox/hap-qt-codec/releases/

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              • DusXD
                DusX Tech Staff
                last edited by

                You need to install the Hap codecs. Dvx should work. Ensure you have the projector set to 'transparent'

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                • MikhailM
                  Mikhail
                  last edited by

                  Thanks [DusX](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/149/DusX) .

                  I've tried everything both with DVX and DVX 3. It seems that something wrong with export to DVX in Edius. Despite of using Alpha in export settings, even Edius itself can't read exported video with Alpha channel(video plays, but Alpha don't). So, most likely, that problem with Edius export, rather then Isadora. Or something i did wrong.

                  Thanks [jhoepffner](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/15/jhoepffner) for link! I will try to use it.

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                  • LPmodeL
                    LPmode Beta Silver
                    last edited by

                    I'm in windows and always use HAP with isadora. When used in Isadora the codec is GPU bound and in my experience it's the fastest.

                     DXV is only sped up by the GPU when used with Resolume or D3\. I always use DXV in Resolume and that's the fastest for that application.

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                    • mockejM
                      mockej
                      last edited by

                      I have had a great experience using HapQ, with smooth interactive playback of 6 full HD streams off one mid-spec Windows 10 machine. I would assume HapAlpha would perform as well.

                      SSD's are mandatory when using HAP, I actually use 3 SSD's in RAID0 to be sure of pushing almost 2Gb/s for the 6 streams. 
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                      • MikhailM
                        Mikhail
                        last edited by

                        Good day again!

                        One quastion for theme of embeded Alpha: Why Isadora dosn't support GrassValley MOV codec to play videos with embedded Alpha?
                        It seems, that GrassValley is one actual video format with embedded Alpha,  which i could use.

                        Nor PNG, nither DVX doesnt output Alpha in my Edit program(Edius). I don't know why, but even Edius itself, doesn't read Alpha from these files. Only GrassValley codec works well.

                        Win7, i7(SkyWell), 16GB RAM, SSD, nvidia GTX 1070, Isadora 2.5

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                        • vanakaruV
                          vanakaru
                          last edited by

                          Try to convert GrassValley coded movie to some other with Quicktime or similar(win?).

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                          • DusXD
                            DusX Tech Staff
                            last edited by

                            HAP alpha is my go to.

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