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    • vanakaruV
      vanakaru
      last edited by

      You need to trigger ”grab”(I have generator, but can be anything like keyboard watcher etc) and video you grabbing from goes to first input.

      Also I have made it into user actor - it is so basic that you need it almost always for tracking.

      2d249f-backgrnd-subtr.izz

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      • SkulptureS
        Skulpture Izzy Guru
        last edited by

        Yes. Move out of the way of the camera then somehow (without the camera not seeing you!) press 'grab' on the freeze actor and then move back into the frame.

        It's a start.. you then might need to look at making it look much better.

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        • monsieurmeusM
          monsieurmeus
          last edited by

          thanks a lot for your help and your rapidity! but I still don"t find how to make the image look normal, I mean, not transparent with negative colors…

          Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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          • monsieurmeusM
            monsieurmeus
            last edited by

            and maybe you can help me also to find the Kinecttoizzy QC plugin, I search and search and can't find it to download…  new or old forum… sorry again

            Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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            • DusXD
              DusX Tech Staff
              last edited by

              EDIT: don't use this method.. its an unfortunate early attempt 😉

              I have added something just like this to my livefeed option in SYST3M, unfortunatly the next version its far from ready to share (not working perfect yet).

              I think what you want to do is (at least what i did) is use a buffer actor to stream into your difference actor.
              Your buffer needs to be 2 frames and being filled with the freeze frame and your live feed, alternating at the same rate as your FPS (I used the 'Performance Monitor' to set the rate of a Pulse actor->counter->selector. there might be easier ways).
              Since the difference actor looks at 2 frames (in sequence) of 1 video stream.
              This will give you a black and white video stream of the 'change', which should be you.
              You can then use this stream to add an alpha or mask your stream onto another background.

              I'm attaching a screen grab of a sample.
              You can see that I stopped using the pulse as the trigger, since the live feedfeed seemed not to be the same FPS as my stage.
              In anycase this is kind of working.. but I have a fast video flicker.. this might be an issue with my buffer setup.. not sure.
              Its a start.
              dc8cbc-untitled-1.jpg

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              • vanakaruV
                vanakaru
                last edited by

                try my sample patch

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                • DusXD
                  DusX Tech Staff
                  last edited by

                  Heres one that is working pretty well for me.

                  e7b4a1-untitled-2.jpg 6e4c48-removebg1.izz

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                  • DusXD
                    DusX Tech Staff
                    last edited by

                    note: like Skulpture mentioned before, you need to grab a freeze frame that is of the static background first..
                    then you may need to play with the threshold and other actor settings to tune it up.

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                    • MichelM
                      Michel Izzy Guru
                      last edited by

                      and it does help to switch the camera from automatic to manual settings.

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                      • SkulptureS
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru
                        last edited by

                        I like @DusX solution using the AlphaMask!

                        * I might have to recreate that patch and steal it for my collection 😉 *

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                        • N
                          nick
                          last edited by

                          if lighting changes you will also need to grab a fresh background frame - depending on your situation it may make sense to grab a fresh background frame whenever the total movement in the frame is less than a threshold - this will help protect against slowly changing light levels

                          MacBook Pro 11.5.2

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                          • DusXD
                            DusX Tech Staff
                            last edited by

                            @nick I was thinking of adding a motion detection based reset as well, good call, since half the work is already done.
                            @Skulpture go to it.. would love to see what you are able to add to it.
                            @Michel you are so right I was just playing with this with a cheap webcam that is all auto focus, auto white balance etc.. and it simply didn't work at all anymore.

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                            • N
                              nick
                              last edited by

                              yep - movement or light changing are our descriptions of how a difference has been generated, as far as isadora is concerned they are both just differences in pixels across the frame

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                              • monsieurmeusM
                                monsieurmeus
                                last edited by

                                Hi everybody, thanks so much for your help, I'd like to invinte you all to drink a pastis in the sun but I can't upload the bottle…

                                A question remains to me is the blinking effect, how do you get rid of that ?  I tried a pulse generator, but I still get my selector slowly switching from 1 to 2 with unregular rhythm, my computer is also slowing down to 10fps…

                                Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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                                • SkulptureS
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes the flicker is quite annoying; but I guess since you are wanting to take a picture this shouldn't effect things too much.

                                  I am working on this though. By Ssing @DusX glrious technique (with a bit of tinkering) I think it can be done quite effectively. But I need a bit more time.

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                                  • monsieurmeusM
                                    monsieurmeus
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Skulpture,

                                    thanks for your reply. In fact, I don't need just a picture, I need to have this as a live stream overalyed on a video file… 

                                    Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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                                    • SkulptureS
                                      Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                      last edited by

                                      Apologies my mistake. So the jutter/jitter is quite important then! 🙂

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                                      • DusXD
                                        DusX Tech Staff
                                        last edited by

                                        I was able to get a rather smooth video with my last patch uploaded.
                                        By dropping the buffer element and triggering direct from the live input the flicker was removed.
                                        The only artifact is that the mask is recreated on every other frame so I added the motion blur to help smooth this out. I was pretty happy with the outcome, however; I don't know exacly what you are planning.
                                        You could alternately use the mask stream to inject an alpha channel to the live video allowing some other compositing.
                                        Frame-rate is really going to depend on your live streams source resolution. I can get 30fps at 640x480, but my machine is current and fast. The blur effects are going to be a factor here as well, so I think I had 2 gaussian blur actors, you can do with out, or use just one. I was playing with removing some background details since in my living room here I have a large window behind that was causing some problems. If you can light yourself and keep the background dark you should have a much better time of it.

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                                        • SkulptureS
                                          Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                          last edited by

                                          I was using motion blur and effects mixer using submin mode instead of the selector but it was still jumpy. (will post patch soon)

                                          I also had issues with submin as in certain spots it spoiled the effects; so really, like you say DusX, the key is background and light control.

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                                          • monsieurmeusM
                                            monsieurmeus
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi Skulpture, did you had a brilliant idea about that project of removing the background without jumpy image? I tried without finding a solution. I thought it would be easier, photo booth did that so simply, it's using the same parameters we can have in izzy, but how ?

                                            thanks

                                            Samuel, working on Macbook i7 10.10.3

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