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    2.6 Crashing - Need to switch back to 2.5

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    • markM
      mark @Jamie Nesbitt
      last edited by mark

      @jamie-nesbitt said:

      can you give me the non-usb version?

       I've just updated the "Where Can I Download Older Versions of Isadora" page.

      It now has v2.5.2 - click here to see the page.

      Best Wishes,
      Mark

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • markM
        mark
        last edited by

        Dear All,

        A further update. It seems that @Jamie-Nesbitt's bug may be related to playing HAP movies.

        In v2.6, we added a feature to allow AVFoundation (the system that replaced QuickTime) to play HAP on macOS.

        In past versions, even though you had chosen 'performance' in the 'optimize' input (which normally means "use AVFoundation"), Isadora would have reverted to using QuickTime to play your HAP movies. 

        But now, AVFoundation will play those movies, and there may be a bug.

        I'm investigating further right now.

        But if you are using HAP, and you want to continue using v2.6, for the moment I would set the 'optimize' input to 'interaction' to force the use of QuickTime when playing HAP movies.

        Best Wishes,
        Mark 

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        • markM
          mark
          last edited by

          @Michel @Skulpture @DusX @mc_monte @crystalhorizon 

          Please take note of the above post.

          Best,
          M

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • gapworksG
            gapworks @mark
            last edited by

            @mark dear mark , i really appreciate the new version of isadora. But a fun thing happened . i set up a file in isadora 2.6 and after 10 min isadora quits unexpected! downgrading to 2.2.2. works perfectly!

            i attached the console logs for your information

            Running MBP2017 / Osx 10.14.5 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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            • gapworksG
              gapworks @gapworks
              last edited by

              @mark sorry the attachments did not work somehow 😞  

              Running MBP2017 / Osx 10.14.5 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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              • MichelM
                Michel Izzy Guru @gapworks
                last edited by

                @gapworks

                The upload should work when you zip it.

                Best Michel

                Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                • gapworksG
                  gapworks @Michel
                  last edited by

                  @michel i tried this ...maybe now it works  crash2.zip

                  Running MBP2017 / Osx 10.14.5 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                  • markM
                    mark @gapworks
                    last edited by mark

                    @gapworks said:

                    dear mark , i really appreciate the new version of isadora. But a fun thing happened . i set up a file in isadora 2.6 and after 10 min isadora quits unexpected! downgrading to 2.2.2. works perfectly!

                    Go to Isadora Preferences > Warnings > Check for Updates and set the Automatically Check for New Versions popup to Never. Your crash is because of a feature we reinstated where Isadora checks for a new version periodically. That will solve your crash.

                    But can you help me with figure this out please?

                    1) Was your internet connection disabled when this happened?

                    2) Does your internet connection require a proxy?

                    3) Is there anything else unusual about your internet connection?

                    4) Do you use a VPN?

                    5) How do you have you Gatekeeper security settings? Do you have it set to allow "Mac App Store and Identified Developers" ?  

                    The console log you sent shows a lot of TCP/IP errors... this is probably related to the crash. Let me know the answers to the above questions as soon as you get a chance.

                    Best Wishes,
                    Mark

                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    • markM
                      mark
                      last edited by

                      @Woland,

                      Do you have 10.12 installed? The crashes related to the update check both happened on 10.12, and I don't have that version anywhere. If you do, can you report if you had any trouble with this crash? Can you go to the Help Menu and choose "Check for Updates" to see if anything bad happens?

                      Thanks,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                      • JJHP3J
                        JJHP3
                        last edited by mark

                        To answer Mark's questions in relation to my crash problem:

                        1) internet was disabled

                        2) no proxy, nothing unusual with connection... I don't have internet in my studio

                        4) no VPN

                        5) Gatekeeper: Allow MacApp Store and Identified Developer

                        John 

                        MBP'21- M1-Max; Sonoma 14.2.1; Isadora: 3.2 (ARM) ---- artwork: terragizmo.net

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                        • gapworksG
                          gapworks @mark
                          last edited by

                          @mark i  programmed all the cues on my macbook pro /16gb /high sierra ect. ...in the gallery space there is no internet available apart from other hotspots passing by. all afternoon during our test period nothing happened but once i transferred my file

                          onto their mac mini isadora  crashed every 10 min. yes i think wifi was enabled, not sure 😞 i can only check on monday. it was certainly enabled on my macbook but  not connected. no vpn! gatekeeper is not set to identified developers only if needed!

                          Running MBP2017 / Osx 10.14.5 / 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 / Intel HD Graphics 630 1536 MB / Latest Isadora Version / www.gapworks.at / located in Vienna Austria

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                          • WolandW
                            Woland Tech Staff
                            last edited by

                            @mark 

                            I'm actually on 10.11.4

                            I don't have a standard license, but I opened an old patch with 2.6 (standard), in demo mode, nothing bad happens when I click "Isadora updates" or "check for new version regardless of whether or not I am connected to the internet.

                            I opened an old patch with 2.6 (USB), in demo mode, nothing bad happens when I click "Isadora updates" or "check for new version regardless of whether or not I am connected to the internet.

                            I opened an old patch with 2.6 (standard), with my license plugged in, nothing bad happens when I click "Isadora updates" or "check for new version regardless of whether or not I am connected to the internet.

                            I did find a visual bug with the control panel but I'll file a bug report later. I'm headed to the women's march in NYC soon.

                            Best wishes,

                            Woland

                            TroikaTronix Technical Support
                            New Support Ticket Link: https://support.troikatronix.com/support/tickets/new
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                            | Isadora 3.2.6 | Mac Pro (Late 2013), macOS 10.14.6, 3.5GHz 6-core, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, Dual AMD FirePro D700s |

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                            • markM
                              mark
                              last edited by

                              @woland said:

                              I'm headed to the women's march in NYC soon.

                              Thanks for the checks. You rock Lucas!

                              I'm glad you'll continue your day with a far more worthwhile effort. I wish I was there too!

                              Best Wishes,
                              Mark 

                              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                              • markM
                                mark @gapworks
                                last edited by

                                @gapworks said:

                                onto their mac mini isadora  crashed every 10 min.

                                 I have three people who had this problem working with a potential fix. I'll know more by tomorrow.

                                Thanks for your patience and understanding.

                                Best Wishes,
                                Mark

                                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                • L
                                  Lauri
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi, just for your information:

                                  Kind of similar issue here with MacPro (2013) OSX10.11.6. Isadora 2.6 gets jammed (not really crashed), the stage still runs, but the program is stuck after every 5mins. There comes a white rectangular over the interface, and all the application menus are greyed (non-functional), and Isadora cannot be quit but has to be Force Quit.

                                  Interestingly this does not happen in my MacBookPro (2016) OSX10.12.6, where Isadora 2.6 runs without problem.

                                  Best

                                  Lauri

                                  MacPro (2013), 3.0GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon E5, RAM 64GB, Dual AMB FirePro D700, OSX 10.13.6
                                  MacBookPro (15 inch 2018), 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7, RAM 32GB, Radeon Pro Vega 20, OSX 10.14.6

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                                  • L
                                    Lauri
                                    last edited by

                                    Oh, sorry, forgot an image I took:

                                    MacPro (2013), 3.0GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon E5, RAM 64GB, Dual AMB FirePro D700, OSX 10.13.6
                                    MacBookPro (15 inch 2018), 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7, RAM 32GB, Radeon Pro Vega 20, OSX 10.14.6

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                                    • J
                                      Jamie Nesbitt
                                      last edited by Jamie Nesbitt

                                      HUGE THANK YOU TO MARK AND THE TEAM!!! As always, the troika team has the best service of any program I work with. The issue has been solved on our end. We're back and running. 

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                                      • WolandW
                                        Woland Tech Staff @Jamie Nesbitt
                                        last edited by

                                        @jamie-nesbitt said:

                                        As always, the troika team has the best service of any program I work with. 

                                         I couldn't agree more.

                                        TroikaTronix Technical Support
                                        New Support Ticket Link: https://support.troikatronix.com/support/tickets/new
                                        TroikaTronix Support Policy: https://support.troikatronix.com/support/solutions/articles/13000064762
                                        TroikaTronix Add-Ons Page: https://troikatronix.com/add-ons/

                                        | Isadora 3.2.6 | Mac Pro (Late 2013), macOS 10.14.6, 3.5GHz 6-core, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, Dual AMD FirePro D700s |

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                                        • markM
                                          mark
                                          last edited by mark

                                          https://troikatronix.com/files...For Everyone Following this Thread:

                                          I gave @Jamie-Nesbitt 's a new build which you can also download.

                                          [EDIT: you can now found a more recent build below: v2.6.0b2]

                                          Best Wishes,
                                          Mark

                                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                          • markM
                                            mark @Lauri
                                            last edited by

                                            @lauri said:

                                            Kind of similar issue here with MacPro (2013) OSX10.11.6

                                             Are you playing a movie file compressed with the HAP codec?

                                            If so the beta above will likely solve the problem.

                                            If not HAP, please give us the codec used to compress the movie, and the resolution.

                                            Best Wishes,
                                            Mark

                                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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