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    Multiprojector + Mac OS Window Frustration: A Helpful Trick

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    • markM
      mark
      last edited by

      Hello All,

      So I'm in the last days of my residency here in Lausanne, and was going **_mad_** last week when Mac OS kept opening folder windows on the video projector displays -- which in my situation, I can't actually see. I had to have my dramaturg tell me where the cursor was ("go up, go left, etc.") so that I could click the title bar and drag the window onto the main display. Totally frustrating!
      So I wrote this little Applet in AppleScript. It's a bit like the "Gather Windows" button on the Displays Preferences: Run the app, and every Mac OS Window that is not already on the main display will be placed there. What a relief!
      Enjoy,
      Mark

      6565bd-gather-windows.zip

      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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      • ?
        A Former User
        last edited by

        Thanks heaps for that, already my fave script!

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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          Brillant!

          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
          RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
          RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
          RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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          • ArmandoA
            Armando Beta Gold
            last edited by

            Thanks again!!!


            Armando Menicacci

            www.studiosit.ca
            www.armandomenicacci.net

            Macbook pro 16 inches 2022 64 GB RAM, M1 MAX. OS 14 Sonoma

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            • CitizenJoeC
              CitizenJoe
              last edited by

              Mark, that's fantastic!  I've been wishing for the same thing on Windows!

              Cheers,

              Hugh

              Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.

              1. new laptop: Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6
              2. old desktop: Dell T5500 2009, Dual Quad Core Processor E5530, 12 gigs, 2x Radeon 5750... Still works well!
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              • PacoTheCharmP
                PacoTheCharm
                last edited by

                great!

                On a similar subject, when having multiple projectors do you guys have trouble with the computer reassigning the main desktop or other screens order to other devices than control monitor according to what was turned on/in what order? It came across as a question during a meeting today, I thought I had dealt with this before, but can't remember how.

                Set, Lighting, Projection Designer
                http://www.wawr.ca

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                • Bill CottmanB
                  Bill Cottman
                  last edited by

                  Thanks in advance of experiencing this problem. Question: Should I run the app as part of my pre-show setup procedure to prevent this from happening?

                  http://www.BillCottman.com : Isadora3.0.8f09 with MBP OS X 10.11.6 in Minneapolis, MN

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                  • markM
                    mark
                    last edited by

                    To PacoTheCharm: I myself don't understand the logic by which the outputs are chosen -- but I've ended up with the menu bar on the beamer several times now. Very frustrating! My procedure now goes like this.

                    1) Start with only main monitor plugged in. This ensures the login screen and menu bar show up there first.
                    2) Plug in each beamer, ensuring that it is done in a reliable order each time (i.e., projector 1, then projector 2, etc.)
                    This seems to give me a reliable setup. But maybe someone else has a better solution.
                    To Vanderzee: Running it advance won't help. But if you open a window and it ends up on the beamer, run this app and and it will place all windows on the main screen.
                    Best,
                    M

                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    • eightE
                      eight
                      last edited by

                      I had a feeling that the bar on the beamer issue only happens once, when a given projector is connected to a computer for the first time. After that, it seemed to remember the the settings from the previous time.

                      --8

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                      • MatthewHM
                        MatthewH Beta Tester
                        last edited by

                        Actually, 10.8 has a known bug on Mac Pros wherein it forgets which monitor is primary on restart which could account for some of these issues.

                        Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                        • primaldivineP
                          primaldivine
                          last edited by

                          Yep, had the very same problems with main monitor being forgotten consistently on a MacPro on OS 10.8 with two video cards and four projectors. Seems to me Apple has been spending too much time thinking about the iPhone... really poor programming behaviour methinks?

                          Pro-User Latest Beta - MacBook Pro i7 2.66GHz SSD
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                          • primaldivineP
                            primaldivine
                            last edited by

                            ps, thanks for the script, mark. WIll try it tomorrow on the MacPro.  🙂

                            Pro-User Latest Beta - MacBook Pro i7 2.66GHz SSD
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                            • DappertuttoD
                              Dappertutto
                              last edited by

                              Thanks, that's super helpful.

                              I noticed that it doesn't move over the System Prefs windows. Would it be possible to make the script do that?
                              It would be useful in the following scenario: Sometimes I need to change the desktop backgrounds to solid black, however the "Gather Windows" feature only works with the Displays prefs. In a multi-projector setup, it's a huge pain to grab all those Desktop & Screen Saver windows and drag them over.
                              PS - A little tip for reducing headaches during tech. When I'm in a multi-projector situation and can't see where my mouse is, I turn on a little app called PinPoint. It puts a big red circle around your mouse pointer and makes it a lot easier to find!
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                              • mockejM
                                mockej
                                last edited by

                                fantastic... Thanks!

                                rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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                                • keftapartyK
                                  keftaparty
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi,

                                  for pc users, a little software that simulates edid, so you system allways "see" monitors even if they are not yet plugged:
                                  [power strip](http://entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm)
                                  A little hardware solution for those who can afford it:
                                  [dvi detective](http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=4715)
                                  Mehdi

                                  ...
                                  Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
                                  www.toutain-lopez.com

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                                  • MatthewHM
                                    MatthewH Beta Tester
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dappertutto, Screenblacker which is a free little Mac app from the people behind QLab might be useful to you. It's one of those things that seems a little silly but is super handy.

                                    Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                                    • A
                                      AliaS
                                      last edited by

                                      Fantastic!

                                      On one computer, though, (out of 3 that I put it on), it isn't working and I am getting a message that says "access for assistive devices is disabled". Any idea? The other two it works great.
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                                      • MatthewHM
                                        MatthewH Beta Tester
                                        last edited by

                                        Trying going to Accessibility in System Preferences and turning on the check box for assistive devices.

                                        Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                                        • MichelM
                                          Michel Izzy Guru
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dappertutto

                                          Another thing that helps you seeing the cursor, got to Accessiblitiy in System Preferences and change the cursor size to really big. I use that often.

                                          Best
                                          Michel

                                          Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                          • A
                                            AliaS
                                            last edited by

                                            @MatthewH: I'm assuming by 'Accessibility' you mean 'Universal Access'. Thank you, but although it was, in fact, disabled, I've enabled it, restarted, and still getting the same error message. It gives me the option of then going in and editing the script but I'm no programmer.

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