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    Multiprojector + Mac OS Window Frustration: A Helpful Trick

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    • ArmandoA
      Armando Beta Gold
      last edited by

      Thanks again!!!


      Armando Menicacci

      www.studiosit.ca
      www.armandomenicacci.net

      Macbook pro 16 inches 2022 64 GB RAM, M1 MAX. OS 14 Sonoma

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      • CitizenJoeC
        CitizenJoe
        last edited by

        Mark, that's fantastic!  I've been wishing for the same thing on Windows!

        Cheers,

        Hugh

        Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.

        1. new laptop: Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6
        2. old desktop: Dell T5500 2009, Dual Quad Core Processor E5530, 12 gigs, 2x Radeon 5750... Still works well!
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        • PacoTheCharmP
          PacoTheCharm
          last edited by

          great!

          On a similar subject, when having multiple projectors do you guys have trouble with the computer reassigning the main desktop or other screens order to other devices than control monitor according to what was turned on/in what order? It came across as a question during a meeting today, I thought I had dealt with this before, but can't remember how.

          Set, Lighting, Projection Designer
          http://www.wawr.ca

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          • Bill CottmanB
            Bill Cottman
            last edited by

            Thanks in advance of experiencing this problem. Question: Should I run the app as part of my pre-show setup procedure to prevent this from happening?

            http://www.BillCottman.com : Isadora3.0.8f09 with MBP OS X 10.11.6 in Minneapolis, MN

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            • markM
              mark
              last edited by

              To PacoTheCharm: I myself don't understand the logic by which the outputs are chosen -- but I've ended up with the menu bar on the beamer several times now. Very frustrating! My procedure now goes like this.

              1) Start with only main monitor plugged in. This ensures the login screen and menu bar show up there first.
              2) Plug in each beamer, ensuring that it is done in a reliable order each time (i.e., projector 1, then projector 2, etc.)
              This seems to give me a reliable setup. But maybe someone else has a better solution.
              To Vanderzee: Running it advance won't help. But if you open a window and it ends up on the beamer, run this app and and it will place all windows on the main screen.
              Best,
              M

              Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
              Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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              • eightE
                eight
                last edited by

                I had a feeling that the bar on the beamer issue only happens once, when a given projector is connected to a computer for the first time. After that, it seemed to remember the the settings from the previous time.

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                • MatthewHM
                  MatthewH Beta Tester
                  last edited by

                  Actually, 10.8 has a known bug on Mac Pros wherein it forgets which monitor is primary on restart which could account for some of these issues.

                  Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                  • primaldivineP
                    primaldivine
                    last edited by

                    Yep, had the very same problems with main monitor being forgotten consistently on a MacPro on OS 10.8 with two video cards and four projectors. Seems to me Apple has been spending too much time thinking about the iPhone... really poor programming behaviour methinks?

                    Pro-User Latest Beta - MacBook Pro i7 2.66GHz SSD
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                    • primaldivineP
                      primaldivine
                      last edited by

                      ps, thanks for the script, mark. WIll try it tomorrow on the MacPro.  🙂

                      Pro-User Latest Beta - MacBook Pro i7 2.66GHz SSD
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                      • DappertuttoD
                        Dappertutto
                        last edited by

                        Thanks, that's super helpful.

                        I noticed that it doesn't move over the System Prefs windows. Would it be possible to make the script do that?
                        It would be useful in the following scenario: Sometimes I need to change the desktop backgrounds to solid black, however the "Gather Windows" feature only works with the Displays prefs. In a multi-projector setup, it's a huge pain to grab all those Desktop & Screen Saver windows and drag them over.
                        PS - A little tip for reducing headaches during tech. When I'm in a multi-projector situation and can't see where my mouse is, I turn on a little app called PinPoint. It puts a big red circle around your mouse pointer and makes it a lot easier to find!
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                        • mockejM
                          mockej
                          last edited by

                          fantastic... Thanks!

                          rMBP (2015) i7, 16gig, AMD Radeon R9 M370X, OS X 10.15 | located in Johannesburg, South Africa

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                          • keftapartyK
                            keftaparty
                            last edited by

                            Hi,

                            for pc users, a little software that simulates edid, so you system allways "see" monitors even if they are not yet plugged:
                            [power strip](http://entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm)
                            A little hardware solution for those who can afford it:
                            [dvi detective](http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=4715)
                            Mehdi

                            ...
                            Mehdi Toutain-Lopez
                            www.toutain-lopez.com

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                            • MatthewHM
                              MatthewH Beta Tester
                              last edited by

                              @Dappertutto, Screenblacker which is a free little Mac app from the people behind QLab might be useful to you. It's one of those things that seems a little silly but is super handy.

                              Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                              • A
                                AliaS
                                last edited by

                                Fantastic!

                                On one computer, though, (out of 3 that I put it on), it isn't working and I am getting a message that says "access for assistive devices is disabled". Any idea? The other two it works great.
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                                • MatthewHM
                                  MatthewH Beta Tester
                                  last edited by

                                  Trying going to Accessibility in System Preferences and turning on the check box for assistive devices.

                                  Matthew Haber :: matthewhaber.com :: besidedigital.com :: Download my actors: http://www.matthewhaber.com/isadora-actors

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                                  • MichelM
                                    Michel Izzy Guru
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dappertutto

                                    Another thing that helps you seeing the cursor, got to Accessiblitiy in System Preferences and change the cursor size to really big. I use that often.

                                    Best
                                    Michel

                                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                                    • A
                                      AliaS
                                      last edited by

                                      @MatthewH: I'm assuming by 'Accessibility' you mean 'Universal Access'. Thank you, but although it was, in fact, disabled, I've enabled it, restarted, and still getting the same error message. It gives me the option of then going in and editing the script but I'm no programmer.

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