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    • jhoepffnerJ
      jhoepffner
      last edited by

      wait, wait, I am just discovering it… But I am finding some very interesting things, between Isadora, Duration and touchOSC on iPad. I am just preparing the second day of a 5 day workshop on Isadora for persons working in Theater and they are really interested by the timeline possibilities.

      I have some problems and questions and I try to intervene in the Duration google group, I register myself, but my contribution disappears, any idea?

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      • MatthewHM
        MatthewH Beta Tester
        last edited by

        I'm current programming a system that provides Watchout-like cuing capabilities like freerunning and looping playback, fully integrated MSC, and control cues using a tightly integrated combination of Duration and Isadora user actors I'm creating. I'm extremely excited about this prospect. I think if Isadora were ever to gain an integrated timeline, I would want it to be similar to Duration.

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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          I think I am going to blogging this relationship between Duration and Isadora. 

          You guys (@[jhoepffner](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/15/jhoepffner) @MatthewH and @[bruper](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/929/bruper)) have got me thinking about this new idea in terms of timelines.... It really does open up Isadora into new territory. 

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          • DusXD
            DusX Tech Staff
            last edited by

            For sure.. as soon as I used it I thought that its a fantastic partner to Isadora, and I agree with Matthew that I can seen a similar component as part of Isadora at some future point.

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            • SkulptureS
              Skulpture Izzy Guru
              last edited by

              Worth a look also....

              [http://www.iannix.org/en/index.php](http://www.iannix.org/en/index.php)

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              • MatthewHM
                MatthewH Beta Tester
                last edited by

                As per my earlier post I just finished building the first draft of a set of user actors I'm calling Duration Toolkit that provide some pretty powerful functionality for cuing in Isadora using Duration. Key features include:

                -Automatic creation of a database of cue numbers and positions to allow easy jumping to a particular cue by number as well as effortless integration with MIDI Show Control
                -An Isadora based clock that Duration is slaved to while still permitting full use of Durations' built in transport controls
                -Built in error reporting and troubleshooting messages in plain english for easy configuration
                -Watchout style freerunning and looping movie playback and straightforward picture playback
                -Extremely resource efficient
                -Built in controls for jumping to timeline positions based on time, percent, or cue number
                -Creating staggered fades across multiple channels of video is vastly easier than with any other cueing method in Isadora
                I am also working on implementing:
                -Movie playback that chases timecode
                -Full designer/tech controls with seamless integration
                -Cue names in addition to cue numbers
                -Jump cue type
                -Seamless integration with my master/slave and understudy/spare playback computer actors for easy cuing across multiple headless playback computers from a single master computer
                I'm using it on a show for which I am currently in tech and it is proving to be extremely stable and I will post a video of the programming/configuration process once I have a moment and in the meantime I have attached a screenshot. I honestly think that this is by far the most powerful and efficient cuing system that is currently available for Isadora. Even on this single channel show I am enjoying its benefits and on a show with numerous channels of video I think it will probably be pretty life changing compared to the typical approach of creating hundreds of scenes.

                7bb40c-untitled.tiff

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                • MichelM
                  Michel Izzy Guru
                  last edited by

                  Hey MatthewH

                  Once again this is something that sure took hours/days/weeks to get where you have it now. Just wanted to say thank you for sharing and inpsiring others.

                  Best
                  Michel

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                  • DusXD
                    DusX Tech Staff
                    last edited by

                    Looks awesome...
                    Will you put together any tutorials? 😉

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                    • MatthewHM
                      MatthewH Beta Tester
                      last edited by

                      Ill definitely do a video demonstrating how it all works once I'm less busy. I definitely want to do some more work on them before I would consider distributing the actors and I haven't decided yet whether I will make them generally available. I forgot to mention this before but they are compatible with both OSX and Windows.

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                      • DusXD
                        DusX Tech Staff
                        last edited by

                        Great to hear since I'm on windows.
                        I guess I have two things to hope for..
                        1 that you decide to make them available (within my budget)
                        2 that I get a project that warrants their use.

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                        • MatthewHM
                          MatthewH Beta Tester
                          last edited by

                          I'll do my best on #1.

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                          • SkulptureS
                            Skulpture Izzy Guru
                            last edited by

                            Looks brilliant. Not only have you cracked the whole communication/osc commands and stuff you've built an interface too! haha. Where do you find the time? 🙂

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                            • MatthewHM
                              MatthewH Beta Tester
                              last edited by

                              The middle of the night, mostly.

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                              • bruperB
                                bruper
                                last edited by

                                great!

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                                • SkulptureS
                                  Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                  last edited by

                                  Duration seems to have kicked off a new trend... here is another type of 'timeline' app.

                                  [http://createdigitalmotion.com/2013/05/vezer-lets-you-control-anything-with-timelines-without-being-overly-hard-to-use-mac/](http://createdigitalmotion.com/2013/05/vezer-lets-you-control-anything-with-timelines-without-being-overly-hard-to-use-mac/)
                                  [http://www.vezerapp.hu/](http://www.vezerapp.hu/)

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                                  • MichelM
                                    Michel Izzy Guru
                                    last edited by

                                    Looks nice.

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                                    • vanakaruV
                                      vanakaru
                                      last edited by

                                      @Skulpture

                                      If this is as good as CoGe is then it would be great. Only it will not be free.

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                                      • ArmandoA
                                        Armando Beta Gold
                                        last edited by

                                        Well has anyone thought to use ableton live as a timeline tool? Sure it looks exagerate power just for that (like renting the top restarant in the world just to boil an egg. But it works. Isn't it? Or Audiomulch...


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                                        • keftapartyK
                                          keftaparty
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Armando, Live doesn't output OSC natively for what I know. I think you need to add Max4Live

                                          Mehdi

                                          ...
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                                          • ArmandoA
                                            Armando Beta Gold
                                            last edited by

                                            I know Mehdi. I was thinking about midi....


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