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    In Praise of Dither

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    • CitizenJoeC
      CitizenJoe
      last edited by

      This is brilliant:

      Hugh in Winnipeg - All test machines, Win10 Pro, 64 bit, OS SSD and separate data SSD.

      1. new laptop: Dell 7560, i9 11950H, 64 gigs, NVIDIA RTX A4000 w/8 GB GDDR6
      2. old desktop: Dell T5500 2009, Dual Quad Core Processor E5530, 12 gigs, 2x Radeon 5750... Still works well!
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      • MaximeM
        Maxime
        last edited by

        @Videosmith this can be easily found and done with GLSL (like most effects that could be deprecated)

        Do a little research on shadertoy.com , i'm sure you will fond something to cheer you up 🙂

        MBP 15" end 2013 / i7 2,3Ghz /NVIDIA GT 750M 2048Mo / 16Go RAM / OS 10.10.3
        Razer Blade 15" 2018 /i7/ GTX1070/ 16Go RAM

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        • VideosmithV
          Videosmith @CitizenJoe
          last edited by

          @citizenjoe thankyou 🙂

          Sam Meech - artist and videosmith - hello@smeech.co.uk | @videosmithery
          MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014 - OS 10.13.6 Hi Sierra)

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          • VideosmithV
            Videosmith @Maxime
            last edited by

            @maxime thankyou for the suggestion - I didn't realise there was this whole world out there! I must admit though, I struggle with code, and will miss the direct fuctionality of an out-of-the-box dither actor.

            I've had a little play with some samples, but everything is really anti-aliased :S Any tips appreciated

            Sam Meech - artist and videosmith - hello@smeech.co.uk | @videosmithery
            MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014 - OS 10.13.6 Hi Sierra)

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            • MaximeM
              Maxime
              last edited by

              @Videosmith can you send me the code you're using?

              MBP 15" end 2013 / i7 2,3Ghz /NVIDIA GT 750M 2048Mo / 16Go RAM / OS 10.10.3
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              • VideosmithV
                Videosmith @Maxime
                last edited by Videosmith

                @maxime

                here you go:

                • Classic Mac floyd-steinberg-ish
                • Obra dinn dithering

                Sam Meech - artist and videosmith - hello@smeech.co.uk | @videosmithery
                MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014 - OS 10.13.6 Hi Sierra)

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                • MaximeM
                  Maxime
                  last edited by

                  @Videosmith you're second link is not working but i think i could find this obra dinn dithering shader, but it doesn't work in isadora as there's a buffer in it.

                  Considering the first one, I don't have this anti-aliased problem as you do..

                  MBP 15" end 2013 / i7 2,3Ghz /NVIDIA GT 750M 2048Mo / 16Go RAM / OS 10.10.3
                  Razer Blade 15" 2018 /i7/ GTX1070/ 16Go RAM

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                  • MichelM
                    Michel Izzy Guru @Videosmith
                    last edited by

                    @videosmith

                    I can imagine that your default resolution in Isadora is set very low. You can either change it in the preference settings or over ride it by changing the width and height values of the shader actor to a higher resolution.

                    Best Michel

                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                    • markM
                      mark
                      last edited by

                      @videosmith said:

                      with V3 coming up, I realised that some of the actors I use the most were depreciated in V2, and so could be facing their final curtain call this Sept. One in particular has been my go-to video effect to cheer me up when I need some 8-bit affection:

                      Just so everyone knows why I dropped Dither (which I also always liked): it is absolutely QuickTime specific, and that's for sure a no-go in Issadora 3 b/c 32-bit will be gone someday on MacOS and we definitely can't continue to support QT on Windows for reasons outlined in another post. I looked at GLSL algorithms previously, and wasn't satisified that they looked enough like Dither to include them.

                      Best Wishes,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                      Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                      • VideosmithV
                        Videosmith @mark
                        last edited by

                        @mark cheers Mark - I understand  - i am looking forward to V3 in any case 🙂

                        Sam Meech - artist and videosmith - hello@smeech.co.uk | @videosmithery
                        MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014 - OS 10.13.6 Hi Sierra)

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                        • VideosmithV
                          Videosmith @Michel
                          last edited by

                          @michel it's odd - it was set at 1280 x 720. I'm still getting the aliasing when I set the shader to a low resolution. It's tough to find that balance of a clean dither and a lo-res look.

                          Sam Meech - artist and videosmith - hello@smeech.co.uk | @videosmithery
                          MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014 - OS 10.13.6 Hi Sierra)

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