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    [FIXED, DOWNLOAD LINK] NDI 4 watcher only 640x360?

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    • laurentRL
      laurentR
      last edited by

      Thank you Mark you're the best! 😉  ...And shame on Apple to give you more work !

      MBP 15' 2019 & MBP 13' 2015 - OSX10.14 & MP 2.8Ghz QC Xeon + GTX660 - OSX10.12 / Isadora 2.6.1/3.2 - Located France

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      • markM
        mark
        last edited by

        @laurentR @SWDA 

        Please download this Catalina notarized version of the NDI Plugin 0.9.7 and report back if it works for you. Catalina didn't complain for me.

        Best Wishes,
        Mark

        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
        Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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        • laurentRL
          laurentR @mark
          last edited by

          @mark

          Thank you very much Mark, it works for me on Catalina 10.15.3

          MBP 15' 2019 & MBP 13' 2015 - OSX10.14 & MP 2.8Ghz QC Xeon + GTX660 - OSX10.12 / Isadora 2.6.1/3.2 - Located France

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          • markM
            mark @laurentR
            last edited by

            @laurentr said:

            Thank you very much Mark, it works for me on Catalina 10.15.3

             Excellent.

            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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            • SWDAS
              SWDA @mark
              last edited by

              @mark

              Phew! Thanks so much! Seems to work fine so far.

              Sheldon

              Sheldon B Smith
              Adjunct Professor Mills College
              Co-artistic director Smith/Wymore Disappearing Acts
              smithwymore.org

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              • Z
                ziopix
                last edited by

                Hi,


                It seems I have the same problem, I downloaded the "ndi-watcher-v0.9.8.zip" running on Isadora 3.0.8f12 on macOS Mojave and the output is locked to 640x360 px.


                Any suggestions?


                Thank you

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                • jfgJ
                  jfg @ziopix
                  last edited by jfg

                  @ziopix

                  i have the same problem too:


                  works well with 3.0.7


                  in the Actor help you find:


                  but on the NDI Website I have only found NDI 4.5 (installed)

                  https://ndi.tv/tools/

                  where can I find 4.6 ?

                  EDIT: it seems that 4.5 on the NDI website is 4.6 https://forums.newtek.com/thre...

                  Jean-François

                  • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                  - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                  • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                  - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                  - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                  Located in Bremen, Germany

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                  • markM
                    mark @jfg
                    last edited by mark

                    @jfg @ziopix

                    where can I find 4.6 ?

                    I need to make the text of the plugin more clear. It uses v4.6 of the NDI library. I should use the work uses instead of requires, the NDI library is already inside the plugin. (However if your source is an NDI 3 source then maybe there will be problems. I've never tried that.) 

                    Also the NDI website is wrong as indicated in this post. The current version is in fact 4.6.1.

                    That said, I have no problem receiving 1920 x 1080 and other resolutions on MacOS Mojave. I used NDISyphon to convert a Syphon Signal from Simple Server (the test program provided with Syphon) and read it in Isadora. It gives me the full resolution.


                    What are you using as a source?

                    If you use NDI Syphon to convert it to a Syphon signal, and then read that signal with the Syphon Receiver actor in Isadora, what resolution do you get?

                    Best Wishes,
                    Mark

                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    • JuriaanJ
                      Juriaan Tech Staff @mark
                      last edited by Juriaan

                      Hmmm, I can't replicate this. I tried with Resolume / other programs that can do NDI Natively and sent it to Isadora. They all reported the correct resolution.

                      Tested programs;

                      • Resolume Arena 6.x
                      • TouchDesigner 2020
                      • Isadora loopback (Shapes > Virtual Stage > Send over NDI > Grab it with a Watcher and sent it to Stage 1)

                      Tested setup;

                      Isadora 3.0.7 (stable) - Default install (Windows 10)

                      Isadora 3.x (latest stable) - Default install (Windows 10)

                      Isadora 3.1.1, Dell XPS 17 9710, Windows 10
                      Interactive Performance Designer, Freelance Artist, Scenographer, Lighting Designer, TroikaTronix Community moderator
                      Always in for chatting about interaction in space / performance design. Drop me an email at hello@juriaan.me

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                      • jfgJ
                        jfg @mark
                        last edited by

                        @mark

                        NDI Source>> NDI Syphon >> Isadora give always the correct resolution in Isadora but by a direct connection over the actor NDI 4 with 3 different sources I get only a width of 640. I used as sources:

                        - iPhone 7 with EpocCam (1280x720) or JustWifiCam (1920x1080)

                        - New Tek NDI Scan Converter to get e.g the desktop (3840x1200)

                        I have the last NDI Tools installed.

                        best

                        Jean-François 

                        • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                        - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                        • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                        - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                        - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                        Located in Bremen, Germany

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                        • DusXD
                          DusX Tech Staff @jfg
                          last edited by

                          @jfg

                          I also, can't reproduce this issue currently.
                          I'll try a fresh install now that I have my PC sending a few NDI streams.

                          Troikatronix Technical Support

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                          Running: Win 11 64bit, i7, M.2 PCIe SSD's, 32gb DDR4, nVidia GTX 4070 | located in Ontario Canada.

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                          • markM
                            mark @jfg
                            last edited by mark

                            @jfg said:

                            NDI Source>> NDI Syphon >> Isadora give always the correct resolution in Isadora but by a direct connection over the actor NDI 4 with 3 different sources I get only a width of 640.

                            I also tried with New Tek NDI Scan Converter grabbing a window from Safari. Works as expected (i.e., is not limited to 640x360.)


                            Are you sure you have v0.9.8 of the NDI Watcher? Please

                            1) In Isadora, choose Help > Open Plugin Folder > TroikaTronix Actor Plugins
                            2) Select the NDI Watcher.izzyplug plugin
                            3) In the Finder, choose File > Get Info

                            The version number should be v0.9.8.


                            Best Wishes,
                            Mark

                            Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                            Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                            • jfgJ
                              jfg @mark
                              last edited by

                              @mark

                              best

                              Jean-François 

                              • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                              - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                              • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                              - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                              - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                              Located in Bremen, Germany

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                              • markM
                                mark @jfg
                                last edited by mark

                                @jfg

                                Are you running NDI Scan Converter on the same computer as Isadora? If not, please try this and see if this makes a difference.

                                I have this feeling that NDI is forcing the resolution lower if the network is too slow, etc.

                                I've now tested on EpocCam and it runs at 1280x720 as expected. (Though the frames are quite sporadic coming in over the network.)

                                Best Wishes,
                                Mark

                                Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                • jfgJ
                                  jfg @mark
                                  last edited by

                                  @mark

                                  I am running NDI Scan Converter on the same computer.

                                  I have tried:

                                  -  with another user with basic system on the same computer (MacPro 2012)

                                  - with two different users on my MacBookPro

                                  - erased the NDI 4 Watcher, download from Isadora website a new one and reinstall.

                                  always with the same result.

                                  Looking through preferences files but see nothing strange

                                   ?????

                                  best

                                  Jean-François

                                  • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                                  - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                                  • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                                  - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                                  - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                                  Located in Bremen, Germany

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                                  • jfgJ
                                    jfg @mark
                                    last edited by

                                    @mark

                                    I have tried with iPhone/EpocCam>>NDI virtual input >>> Isadora Live Capture>> Video In Watcher and I get the right resolution: 1280x720

                                    • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                                    - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                                    • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                                    - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                                    - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                                    Located in Bremen, Germany

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                                    • jfgJ
                                      jfg @mark
                                      last edited by

                                      @mark

                                      if I use the NDI Virtual Input in the NDI 4 Watcher I get also a 640 resolution

                                      best

                                      Jean-François

                                      • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                                      - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                                      • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                                      - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                                      - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                                      Located in Bremen, Germany

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                                      • liminal_andyL
                                        liminal_andy @jfg
                                        last edited by

                                        @jfg What resolution do you see if you open the same source in NDI Studio Monitor?

                                        Andy Carluccio
                                        Zoom Video Communications, Inc.
                                        www.liminalet.com

                                        [R9 3900X, RTX 2080, 64GB DDR4 3600, Win 10, Izzy 3.0.8]
                                        [...also a bunch of hackintoshes...]

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                                        • jfgJ
                                          jfg @liminal_andy
                                          last edited by

                                          @liminal_andy

                                          I just made a test and recorded the signal from Scan Converter with NDI Studio Monitor and it is the right size, in this case the desktop size 3840x1200. I get the same if I send the signal  Scan Converter>>NDI>Syphon>>Syphon simple client.

                                          • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                                          - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                                          • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                                          - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                                          - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                                          Located in Bremen, Germany

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                                          • jfgJ
                                            jfg @mark
                                            last edited by

                                            @mark

                                            With exactly the same configuration it works fine with 3.0.7 and not with 3.0.8f12.

                                            It works too with 3.0.8b29. Unfortunately I erased the other Beta version.

                                            best

                                            Jean-François 

                                            • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 14.1 Sonoma:
                                            - MacBook Pro M1 Max 16" 64GB RAM
                                            • Izzy 3.2.6, Mac OS 10.14.6 (Mojave):
                                            - Mac Pro 5.1 middle 2012 (3,33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 32GB RAM, Radeon RX 580 8 GB )
                                            - MacBook Pro 2015 (16GB RAM) 2,8 GHz Intel Core i7;

                                            Located in Bremen, Germany

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