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    • MichelM
      Michel Izzy Guru @Vidasonik
      last edited by Michel

      @vidasonik

      I guess with Quicktime you mean .mov but thats not a codec. I made a small sketch to visualise it. On the left side are the so called containers, some a capable to hold multiple audio channels and subtitles others not. Knowing the container does not really tell you what codec is used. On the right side you see different codecs. Not all containers can hold all codecs. h.264 is fine on a modern computer, but for interactivity the best codec to go on a mac is either AppleProRes 422 or HAP. 

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      • VidasonikV
        Vidasonik @Michel
        last edited by

        @michel thanks a lot! I need that education! I use H.264 cos the file size is much smaller than Pro Res 422 but maybe I should convert to HAP?

        Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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        • DusXD
          DusX Tech Staff @Vidasonik
          last edited by

          @vidasonik said:

          I use H.264 cos the file size is much smaller than Pro Res 422 but maybe I should convert to HAP?

           H.264 is smaller because it uses more compression. This also means that more resources are needed to decompress the video. This will be either CPU or GPU time depending on the system. H.264 also merges frames as part of the compression method This means that jumping to any specific frame in the video requires loading and decompressing a number of frames (since data is shared). This method works well for linear forward playback, but not much else.
          Pro Res and HAP both compress each frame individually, so jumping to any specific frame is a matter of loading the frame and decompressing the single frame.
          In the case of HAP, decompression occurs on the GPU, leaving more CPU available for Isadora. This makes HAP the best choice for highly interactive projects.

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          • VidasonikV
            Vidasonik @DusX
            last edited by

            @dusx Great! So how do i convert my videos to HAP?

            Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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            • MichelM
              Michel Izzy Guru @Vidasonik
              last edited by

              @vidasonik

              I corrected a typo in my post above. I did write "on the left side you see the different codecs" but I meant on the right side.

              The HAP codec will possibly give you larger files than AppleProRes 422. To convert videos to HAP you have to install the HAP Codec first (https://github.com/vidvox/hap-...) and then for converting you can use this batch converter (https://github.com/Vidvox/hap-...)

              Best Michel

              Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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              • VidasonikV
                Vidasonik @Michel
                last edited by

                @michel Hi Michel thanks so much! I've converted one video and replaced the original with the HAP version and it seems much better!

                Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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                • VidasonikV
                  Vidasonik @Michel
                  last edited by

                  @michel Hi Michel I have created a user actor which includes Displace and have GPU to CPU converter at start of path and then CPU to GPU converter at end. Is this a reasonable solution?

                  The alternative that Mark suggested does not have inputs for 2 videos.

                  Cheers, Dave

                  Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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                  • MichelM
                    Michel Izzy Guru @Vidasonik
                    last edited by

                    @vidasonik

                    Well I guess if you have nothing else in that chain that needs gpu you don't need to convert back to gpu. at the end also cpu will get pushed to the gpu to go out of your computer.

                    Best Michel

                    Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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                    • DusXD
                      DusX Tech Staff @Vidasonik
                      last edited by

                      @vidasonik said:

                      The alternative that Mark suggested does not have inputs for 2 videos.

                       I think you perhaps are trying the wrong code.

                      the GLSL code posted at the end of the forum thread: https://community.troikatronix...
                      Appears with 2 inputs for me.

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                      • VidasonikV
                        Vidasonik @DusX
                        last edited by

                        @dusx this is the one i downloaded, I can't find another one?

                        Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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                        • VidasonikV
                          Vidasonik @DusX
                          last edited by

                          @dusx wow i've done it - I copied the code into the GLSL Shader !

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                          • VidasonikV
                            Vidasonik @Vidasonik
                            last edited by

                            @vidasonik I realise no-one out there will be impressed. But I'm impressed with myself!

                            Composer and performer of Mimesis Arts / MacBook Pro 16" 2021 Monterey 12.2.1 Apple M1 Max 32GB

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                            • DusXD
                              DusX Tech Staff @Vidasonik
                              last edited by

                              @vidasonik said:

                              @dusx wow i've done it - I copied the code into the GLSL Shader !

                               Great! Feels amazing when you do something new and it works 🙂

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