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    Isadora and NI Mate via OSC

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    • SkulptureS
      Skulpture Izzy Guru
      last edited by

      I recently created a tutorial on how to get information (OSC) from NI Mate into Isadora, its not the best quality:

      [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRJrC9uGN6Q](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRJrC9uGN6Q)

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
      RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
      RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
      RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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      • MichelM
        Michel Izzy Guru
        last edited by

        Thanks Graham.

        Michel Weber | www.filmprojekt.ch | rMBP (2019) i9, 16gig, AMD 5500M 8 GB, OS X 10.15 | located in Winterthur Switzerland.

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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          By the way this was using an older version of NI Mate but it should still be helpful to some.

          Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
          RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
          RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
          RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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          • londoneye82L
            londoneye82
            last edited by

            Hi Everyone - this is my first forum post!

            Thanks Graham for the tutorial - its was great to refresh my memory.
            I'm having a bit of difficulty with Izzy and NI Mate via OSC.  The values are coming into Isadora absolutely fine, however once 'auto-detect' is turn-off, and the ports are renumbered, I am unable to click the 'OK' button to confirm the actions, and instead I get that annoying mac sound when something can't be clicked on.   Am I completely missing something??  I wasn't sure if this was a bug so I haven't filled out a report yet, but if anyone could help on this issue that would be great. If I cancel the OSC stream list, port numbers are lost.
            I am currently using IsadoraCore 1.3.0f24 and NI Mate trial version v1 
            Mac spec: Macbook Pro 10.6.8 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB 667 MHz SDRAM
            Any help and suggestions would be much appreciated, as I go into R & D next week and would love to have this up and running again.
            Thanks,
            Eva
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            • SkulptureS
              Skulpture Izzy Guru
              last edited by

              Yup I know what this is. It's not a bug... You need to put a forward slash before all the names so instead of "Head_x" you need to put "/Head_x" You can do this is either NI Mate or in the stream set up window. It caught me out a while ago! Let me know how you get on. Graham

              Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
              RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
              RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
              RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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              • londoneye82L
                londoneye82
                last edited by

                Great!!! Thank you very much. I spent a while trying to sort out. Great tip! Cheers! Eva

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                • SkulptureS
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru
                  last edited by

                  Did you get it working then Eva? if not contact me via FB.

                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                  RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                  RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                  RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                  • londoneye82L
                    londoneye82
                    last edited by

                    Yes thank you!  All connected OK and working great!

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                    • JJHP3J
                      JJHP3
                      last edited by

                      I posted this on the NI forum and the old isadora forum, with little response. Apologies for reposting...

                      Please bear with my very beginner questions. Just got the Kinect, bought NI Mate, Followed skulptur's advice and see all the numbers in Isadora Communications. When I use Armando's kinect skeleton actor, with #6 for left hand, it only outputs x & y though is it set to all. The numbers don't make sense to me either...sometimes they go above 1.0. I can't map my left hand Y to a video mixer fader - just sort of jumbled numbers with no real difference between one position and another. So I'm thinking that I've not set up NI Mate correctly. Can anyone show me what needed for the best profile for Isadora? Skeleton ON, but OSC on too? How should I go about it? Share your profile for my education??

                      Again, thanks for all your help-  John

                      MBP'21- M1-Max; Sonoma 14.2.1; Isadora: 3.2 (ARM) ---- artwork: terragizmo.net

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                      • G
                        gavspav Beta Silver
                        last edited by

                        I had a brief go with Armandos actor but it didn't work as I expected so I just used osc listeners. After enabling either osc skeleton or osc controller go to the stream set up in Isadora and check the auto detect box. You should then see incoming data. Set up the channels for the data you want to use. Many of the addresses eg head use 3 channels. So if head is set to 1 then say left_arm must be set to 4. Then use osc listeners; channels 1 2 and 3 should give head x,y and z rspectively. Update ni mate if you want screen coordinates as opposed to real world positions.

                        http://www.digitalfunfair.co.uk I'm using M1 MBP 14" mostly but sometimes use older Mac & Windows machines.

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                        • ArmandoA
                          Armando Beta Gold
                          last edited by

                          Hello,

                          sorry for the delay in answering.
                          I really tested my actor and it worked in several computers.
                          The only thing to do was to tell it to listen to another body part before putting the one you want (a number was stuck in the osc listener.
                          Please try this one
                          Armando

                          cba7f0-kinect-skeleton-part.iua


                          Armando Menicacci

                          www.studiosit.ca
                          www.armandomenicacci.net

                          Macbook pro 16 inches 2022 64 GB RAM, M1 MAX. OS 14 Sonoma

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                          • S
                            saif
                            last edited by

                            Hi!

                            Newbie alert! 🙂
                            I have been trying to get OSC output from Ni mate to Isadora 2.0\. I do get the feed from Ni mate in Stream setup of Isadora but when I have to accept and close the window, it shows me an error saying 'Ni_Mate_Sync' is invalid address and needs to start with '/'. So I configured NI mate to fix this and the names get updated accordingly. Just the 'Ni_mate_Sync' node refuses to get renamed and hence I can't go ahead to add an OSC listener. I have tried to change the name in Isadora Strean setup but it instead adds a new feed without the '/' and continues to reject the address. Please help..
                            Saif
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                            • bonemapB
                              bonemap Izzy Guru
                              last edited by

                              I had the same issue until I worked out how to get around it. To fix this problem:

                              In the Communications/Stream Setup - once the stream has been auto detected and the ports have been numbered etc, deselect Auto-Detect Input and then subtract the 'Ni_Mate_Sync' line form the enabled Stream Address. You will then be able to close the Stream Setup.
                              I have attached a screen shot showing a motion capture figure using Ni_Mate 2.03 and Isadora 2.05.

                              b7d763-bonemap_screen-shot-2015-09-19-at-8.48.14-pm.png

                              http://bonemap.com | Australia
                              Izzy STD/USB 3.2.6 | + Beta 3.x.x
                              MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | 14.1.2 Sonoma
                              Mac Studio 2023 M2 Ultra 128GB | OSX 14.1.2 Sonoma
                              A range of deployable older Macs

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                              • bonemapB
                                bonemap Izzy Guru
                                last edited by

                                Hi here is a performance test on vimeo.

                                linking 3D object files to the motion capture stream in Isadora. The frame rate performance on my Mac Book Pro gets as low as 9fps.
                                Not a tutorial. The video is a performance test, motion capture using Kinect Xbox 360, Delicode Ni Mate v2.03 and Troika Tronix Isadora 2.05\. The patch in Isadora is receiving OSC data stream routed to a series of 3D-line actors that make up a stick figure on the Isadora stage. In addition a series of simple 3D objects are also receiving the motion capture data stream via 3D-Player actors within a layer of the Isadora patch.
                                Mac OS 10.10.5 Mac Book Pro 2012 2.6ghz 16gb ram nvidia gt 650M 1024 mb

                                Motion capture with Kinect xBox 360, Ni Mate 2.03 and Isadora 2.05 from Bonemap on Vimeo.

                                Regards, Bonemap

                                http://bonemap.com | Australia
                                Izzy STD/USB 3.2.6 | + Beta 3.x.x
                                MBP 16” 2019 2.4 GHz Intel i9 64GB AMD Radeon Pro 5500 8 GB 4TB SSD | 14.1.2 Sonoma
                                Mac Studio 2023 M2 Ultra 128GB | OSX 14.1.2 Sonoma
                                A range of deployable older Macs

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