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    [ANSWERED] Midi, Bare Conductive, Note on Watcher

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      anr
      last edited by Woland

      Hi,

      I am trying to build an interactive mural with a Bare Conductive Touchboard, and animation(s) mapped with Isadora.

      I have done a midi-setup and have added my Touchboard as an input. The status window shows when I touch my board (light turn green on Midi In Monitor and value changes to 127). However, the Note On Watcher does not indicate that it has been triggered. (I connected the trigger from the Note on Watcher to a movie play (with my animations) and then that to a projector, thinking this would trigger my animation to play)

      I'd love to get to the point where I could have different touch points on my mural trigger different animations to play. But at this point, I'd love to just get one working!

      Have watched some tutorial videos, but I'm not even sure what I'm looking for. 

      Thanks in advance,

      Andrea

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      • JuriaanJ
        Juriaan Tech Staff @anr
        last edited by

        @anr

        Hi Andrea!

        Welcome to the Isadora community forum. Sounds like a fun project!

        Couple questions:

        - Have you selected your input in the MIDI port setup window? All the ports in Isadora are numbered. 

        - Are you sure it is sending a midi note on that Channel, Note? 

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        • dbiniD
          dbini @Juriaan
          last edited by

          or could the Touchboard be sending MIDI CC - so it acts like a control surface rather than a keyboard. in which case, try replacing the Note On Watcher with a Control Watcher.

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            anr @dbini
            last edited by

            @dbini

            Yes! Control Watcher worked and shows it being triggered (but I'm not sure I have it connected to the movie player correctly as the line goes to green but the movie doesn't play through the projector)

            Any idea what I need to do to connect the control watcher to the player? (do I need a trigger value?) Just not sure what the order of things I need to use or what what values I need to be using. 

            Appreciate any help!

            Andrea

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              mark_m @anr
              last edited by

              @anr

              I would... connect the trigger of your control watcher to a trigger value actor, and set the value of that to 1. Connect the output of the trigger value actor to the speed input of the movie player. Initialise (and then set) the value of the speed to 0.  Unfortunately I can't show you what this looks like but should be straightforward. So now when the Midi is triggered it starts the video playing.

              HTH

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              • WolandW
                Woland Tech Staff @mark_m
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                @mark_m said:

                Unfortunately I can't show you what this looks like

                Teamwork 🙂

                Gif: https://recordit.co/3bfKa7X8qK

                File: control-watcher-example.izz

                Screenshot:

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                  anr @Woland
                  last edited by

                  @woland

                  Thank you!!! I got it to play once. Is there a way I can make the visibility go back to off (after it finishes playing) so that when I press my touchboard the video will play again? (I can manually type in visibility to off and play the video again. It is initialized as off.)

                  This forum is amazing. Thank you for your help. I've got students working on their animations and painting the mural and I'm excited to put it all together in the next couple of days.

                  Cheers,

                  Andrea

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                  • WolandW
                    Woland Tech Staff @anr
                    last edited by

                    @anr said:

                    Is there a way I can make the visibility go back to off (after it finishes playing) so that when I press my touchboard the video will play again? (I can manually type in visibility to off and play the video again. It is initialized as off.)

                     Absolutely, give me 5 minutes.

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                      Woland Tech Staff @anr
                      last edited by

                      @anr said:

                      Is there a way I can make the visibility go back to off (after it finishes playing) so that when I press my touchboard the video will play again? (I can manually type in visibility to off and play the video again. It is initialized as off.)

                      Gif: https://recordit.co/8454JADD8u

                      File: control-watcher-example.izz

                      Screenshot:

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                        anr @Woland
                        last edited by

                        @woland

                        THANK YOU!!!

                        It works! I've now got multiple animations that are mapped to different spots. (They are all triggered by one touch point, so my next challenge is to see if I can get different touch points with the touch board working to trigger different projected animations. But for now I'm counting it as a win as the final piece will have touch triggered animations!)


                        Really appreciate all your help. I could not have done it without it. 

                        Cheers,

                        Andrea

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                        • WolandW
                          Woland Tech Staff @anr
                          last edited by

                          @anr said:

                          my next challenge is to see if I can get different touch points with the touch board working to trigger different projected animations

                          If you place a control watcher actor with default settings it'll look for every control message. Therefore, if you place a fresh one and then look at the 'controller' output after you touch each of your different points, you should be able to see if they each send different controller values. If they do send different values, you can make a Control Watcher listen for a specific value by changing the 'controller' input to the specific controller value you saw on the output when you touched that point.

                          (This won't work if all of your points are sending the same controller value though.)

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