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    Prime sense CARMINE 1.08 3D Sensor into Isadora

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    • AlexWilliamsA
      AlexWilliams
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      Has anyone used the Prime sense CARMINE 1.08 3D Sensor into Isadora? If so, any comments, and have you needed more than one to track a mid-sized stage? Looking to purchase one or the other and need a bit of advice...

      Thanks,
      Alex

      Media artist (video designer for theatre and filmmaker) based in Toronto, Canada. Coach and instructor at The National Theatre School of Canada. Instructor at Sheridan College in Interaction Design and York/Sheridan Bachelors of Design. BFA Emily Carr University, MFA York University. 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 460, 4096 VRAM, running OSX 10.12.6, Isadora Core 2.6.1, and 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.13.1 (High Sierra), Isadora Core 2.6.1

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      • AlexWilliamsA
        AlexWilliams
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        Also, has anyone done a side by side comparison with the Kinect?

        Thanks,
        Alex

        Media artist (video designer for theatre and filmmaker) based in Toronto, Canada. Coach and instructor at The National Theatre School of Canada. Instructor at Sheridan College in Interaction Design and York/Sheridan Bachelors of Design. BFA Emily Carr University, MFA York University. 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 460, 4096 VRAM, running OSX 10.12.6, Isadora Core 2.6.1, and 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.13.1 (High Sierra), Isadora Core 2.6.1

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        • markM
          mark
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          Dear Alex,

          Don't know anything about this one. Anyone else?
          Best Wishes,
          Mark

          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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          • AlexWilliamsA
            AlexWilliams
            last edited by

            It looks like they make the Kinect, but it's mac-friendlier, and possibly with greater range. http://www.primesense.com/get-your-sensor2/carmine108/

            Media artist (video designer for theatre and filmmaker) based in Toronto, Canada. Coach and instructor at The National Theatre School of Canada. Instructor at Sheridan College in Interaction Design and York/Sheridan Bachelors of Design. BFA Emily Carr University, MFA York University. 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 460, 4096 VRAM, running OSX 10.12.6, Isadora Core 2.6.1, and 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.13.1 (High Sierra), Isadora Core 2.6.1

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            • SkulptureS
              Skulpture Izzy Guru
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              Only just spotted this now. Interesting. A bit steep on the price but worth it if it does what it says.

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              • AlexWilliamsA
                AlexWilliams
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                Yeah, I hope so. I think we might give it a try, it looks more flexible than the Kinect. If I do, I'll give a report...

                Media artist (video designer for theatre and filmmaker) based in Toronto, Canada. Coach and instructor at The National Theatre School of Canada. Instructor at Sheridan College in Interaction Design and York/Sheridan Bachelors of Design. BFA Emily Carr University, MFA York University. 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 460, 4096 VRAM, running OSX 10.12.6, Isadora Core 2.6.1, and 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.13.1 (High Sierra), Isadora Core 2.6.1

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                • AlexWilliamsA
                  AlexWilliams
                  last edited by

                  Got this response from the developer of Ni Mate on the VJ facebook page:

                  [Julius Tuomisto](https://www.facebook.com/julius.tuomisto) Heh. Well the Carmine is the one to get if the price doesn't scare you. Technically the differences between the Carmine and the Kinect aren't that much (apart from the ability to use 60FPS at 320x240 for the Carmine - something the Kinect can't do at all), but practically it's far nicer because it doesn't require power like the Kinect does.

                  Media artist (video designer for theatre and filmmaker) based in Toronto, Canada. Coach and instructor at The National Theatre School of Canada. Instructor at Sheridan College in Interaction Design and York/Sheridan Bachelors of Design. BFA Emily Carr University, MFA York University. 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 460, 4096 VRAM, running OSX 10.12.6, Isadora Core 2.6.1, and 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.13.1 (High Sierra), Isadora Core 2.6.1

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                  • AlexWilliamsA
                    AlexWilliams
                    last edited by

                    Contacted Prime Sense and got their specs here:

                    http://www.openni.org/rd1-08-specifications/
                    But since the new Kinect's coming out on the 22nd and they said they aren't involved with it, I guess we can wait and see...

                    Media artist (video designer for theatre and filmmaker) based in Toronto, Canada. Coach and instructor at The National Theatre School of Canada. Instructor at Sheridan College in Interaction Design and York/Sheridan Bachelors of Design. BFA Emily Carr University, MFA York University. 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 460, 4096 VRAM, running OSX 10.12.6, Isadora Core 2.6.1, and 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.13.1 (High Sierra), Isadora Core 2.6.1

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                    • ArmandoA
                      Armando Beta Gold
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                      Thanks Alex. I'm also waiting for the new kinect to come out.....


                      Armando Menicacci

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                      • AlexWilliamsA
                        AlexWilliams
                        last edited by

                        Ok, now Apple's just bought Prime Sense. So I guess we'll have to wait to see what Apple does with that...

                        http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/18/apple-buys-israels-primesense-kinect-sensor

                        Media artist (video designer for theatre and filmmaker) based in Toronto, Canada. Coach and instructor at The National Theatre School of Canada. Instructor at Sheridan College in Interaction Design and York/Sheridan Bachelors of Design. BFA Emily Carr University, MFA York University. 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 460, 4096 VRAM, running OSX 10.12.6, Isadora Core 2.6.1, and 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.13.1 (High Sierra), Isadora Core 2.6.1

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                        • SkulptureS
                          Skulpture Izzy Guru
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                          Interesting - I wonder what will change now.

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                          RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
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                          • AlexWilliamsA
                            AlexWilliams
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                            Okay, so the new Kinect looks amazing, but it's got a proprietary connection that even the support guy I talked to doesn't know what is, after he investigated further. It comes with a 3 meter cable but no option to extend it. The kinect also can't be bought separately. So it renders it pretty useless for any theatrical work, as there's no way for the kinect to be controlled from the booth, or even connect to a computer in the first place... maybe there'll be some workarounds in the future, but in the meantime...

                            Here's a link to the abilities of the Kinect:
                            http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-s-kinect-can-t-see-you-naked-says-microsoft-266169.phtml

                            Media artist (video designer for theatre and filmmaker) based in Toronto, Canada. Coach and instructor at The National Theatre School of Canada. Instructor at Sheridan College in Interaction Design and York/Sheridan Bachelors of Design. BFA Emily Carr University, MFA York University. 2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, Radeon Pro 460, 4096 VRAM, running OSX 10.12.6, Isadora Core 2.6.1, and 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 MBP, 16 GB RAM, running OSX 10.13.1 (High Sierra), Isadora Core 2.6.1

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