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    Motion Control Particles (e-motion software)

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    • C
      cypripedium
      last edited by

      Yes of course. I'll do this on monday evening. Can't do it before.

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      • vanakaruV
        vanakaru
        last edited by

        I recreated the Pd patch and I get eMotion to react somewhat. But I have problems with eMotion crashing. So a saved eMotion patch would be really helpful to troubleshoot mine. If I can open it without a crash obviously. e84a76-emotionosc.pd.zip

        MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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        • vanakaruV
          vanakaru
          last edited by

          I am getting on with eMotion using the method I learned from my son. You just press any button and hope for reaction. If it gets out of hand you pull the plug and start over again. I with there would be more intelligent way to do this.

          MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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          • C
            cypripedium
            last edited by

            Sorry for the delay,

            I'm afraid E-motion often crashes. But, in the tests i did, it didn't. You'll find my files here.
            Sincerely
            96b61b-emotion.zip

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            • particlepP
              particlep
              last edited by

              @cypridedium

              thank you for sharing. i've had a quick play and can report that emotion was ok to begin with and with no real pattern developed what i can only describe as spammy behaviour.
              i so want to get something out of emotion ... yet have to again have a moment of standing back from it.

              isadora v3.0.7
              mbp 2.6ghz i7
              mac osx 10.12.6
              dyslexic.

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                quarterinchjack
                last edited by

                Hi all,

                Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but there is a newer version of eMotion out now here:
                http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/
                It seems more stable, a little easer to navigate and I've had a little bit more success getting Isadora to transmit OSC straight to the programme without having to use Pd. Is anybody still playing around with eMotion? If so, have you had any luck with the Multi Transmit actor sending to it?
                Thanks,
                Andy

                System: iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch 2019) 3.7 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5. 8GB RAM. Isadora 3.2.6

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                • SkulptureS
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for the update!

                  I will have a look into this when I get the chance. I've alway loved the idea of eMotion but was difficult to get anything going.

                  Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                  RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                  RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                  RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                  • crystalhorizonC
                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                    last edited by

                    Are there any tutorials for emotion?

                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                    • SkulptureS
                      Skulpture Izzy Guru
                      last edited by

                      A very old one here:

                      https://vimeo.com/10724063
                      And they have a Wiki page here:
                      http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/wiki/

                      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                      RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                      RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                      RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                      • crystalhorizonC
                        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                        last edited by

                        Thanx Graham!

                        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                        • particlepP
                          particlep
                          last edited by

                          I've been playing with the latest emotion version. it seems a lot simpler now. one thing i've already got stumped on is the osc tool. i can;t see the o/c tool parameters to set up the linking.

                          btw i found the older version of emotion not to work now because of a time limit, so was forced to use the latest version.

                          isadora v3.0.7
                          mbp 2.6ghz i7
                          mac osx 10.12.6
                          dyslexic.

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                          • particlepP
                            particlep
                            last edited by

                            to see the osc tool parameters in emotion :

                            window > current tool options
                            tools > osc
                            @[quarterinchjack](/troikatronixforum/profile/307/quarterinchjack) 
                            i've been playing with osc multitransmit and have seen things working.
                            in the osc tool options window next to message in type , i left it as no value or "-"
                            in the value  - parameter window i selected three attributes for the camera ( the osc transmit actor having 3 outputs, all floats). 
                            the osc options window did not update the incoming osc value, however the values were seen to change in the camera tool window. 

                            isadora v3.0.7
                            mbp 2.6ghz i7
                            mac osx 10.12.6
                            dyslexic.

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                            • particlepP
                              particlep
                              last edited by

                              i've been playing with emotion again today.  the osc linking of values seems to have disappeared in the current version.

                              one thing i'm aware of is that i'm not getting into the mindset of emotion to get it to work. when i say get it to work, i want to feel that the output is as a result of something that i am in control of, if only so i can say that the output is connected to my idea.  i rather feel that the programme is dictating what i can make from it. 
                              this might be different if i understand it better.
                              it might be that where i'm going wrong is from a point  of view of the mindset of a production and all that goes with that.
                              there is also leap motion integration. that might be the next thing to play with.

                              isadora v3.0.7
                              mbp 2.6ghz i7
                              mac osx 10.12.6
                              dyslexic.

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                              • SkulptureS
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                last edited by

                                Thanks for the updates @particlep I know what you mean about software that can direct you rather than you direct it. 🙂

                                Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
                                RIG 1: Windows 11, AMD 7 Ryzen, RTX3070, 16gig RAM. 2 x M.2 SSD. HD. Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop.
                                RIG 2: Windows 11, Intel i19 12th Gen. RTX3070ti, 16gig RAM (ddr5), 1x M.2 SSD. UHD DELL G15 Gaming laptop.
                                RIG 3: Apple rMBP i7, 8gig RAM 256 SSD, HD, OS X 10.12.12

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                                • particlepP
                                  particlep
                                  last edited by

                                  does anyone know much about TUIO ? the acroyn stands for tangible user interface.

                                  emotion supports it and i suspect from initial findings that emotion will work better via tuio connectivity than osc.
                                  via www.**tuio**.org/‎  i have found this little video link of an iOS app : [https://code.google.com/p/tuiopad/](https://code.google.com/p/tuiopad/)

                                  isadora v3.0.7
                                  mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                  mac osx 10.12.6
                                  dyslexic.

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                                  • markM
                                    mark
                                    last edited by

                                    Dear @particlep,

                                    TUIO uses something like OSC, but you really need to interpret the data in a special way. This is something I intend to add to Isadora, but it's just not there yet.
                                    I'm sorry that it's not there yet. You'll ned to wait if you want to use TUIO directly in Isadora.
                                    All the Best,
                                    Mark

                                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                    • DavidD
                                      David
                                      last edited by

                                      Dear All,

                                      the new version of eMotion works out of the box with the leap motion.
                                      Here are quick steps to making it happen :
                                      1\. select the grid particle tool
                                      2\. go to window/current tool options
                                      3\. change values to width and Hight currently at 100 each to 50, then press create
                                      (I use smaller values hoping it wouldn't crash but It maybe doesn't change anything it crashed 5 times since
                                      I started this article.)
                                      4\. once the grid is up go to tools/leap or press Cmd+$
                                      5\. set fingers to "current tool" in the "Associated tools" and check the enabled button
                                      6\. If you want to see the fingers positions you can check the boxes below. You might have to change the "translate values above" as shown in the attached picture.
                                      7\. Now choose tools/motion brushes - tweak the values
                                      8\. and voila depending on the force you applied you should see your fingers modifications
                                      This is as far as I got. Once this is understood drawing with brushes is relatively easy.
                                      It's really a shame not to be able to use this tool.
                                      I personally use it by filming the screen with screen flow and use the footage in another program then projected on my large drawings.
                                      Hope this helps.
                                      Best,
                                      David

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                                      • particlepP
                                        particlep
                                        last edited by

                                        i've made some short videos about emotion and how to do things within it based on what i've learnt by playing with it. hopefully they might act as doors into the programme for others ...

                                        i've learnt so much from tutorial videos made by others i wanted to added something into the mix by making some myself.
                                        i've assembled them into a playlist ... http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_aVODe7NTSYZ0rQOM52J674jg085mklV
                                        the videos are based on version 0.71 of emotion.

                                        isadora v3.0.7
                                        mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                        mac osx 10.12.6
                                        dyslexic.

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                                        • vanakaruV
                                          vanakaru
                                          last edited by

                                          @particlep

                                          Thank you very much. 
                                          I went through first two. I like that you show the frustration points. These are really valuable bits of information. I have done the same mistakes(like not being on right layer etc). After these videos I expect more artists will use eMotion. 

                                          MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                                          • crystalhorizonC
                                            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                            last edited by

                                            Thank you so much for this tutorials. Is it possible to link the OSC Message to a motion brush? I was thinking to use NI-Mate OSC messages from the kinect tracking a dancer.

                                            Thanx for help,
                                            Alex

                                            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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