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    • vanakaruV
      vanakaru
      last edited by

      If using Envelope is not absolutely necessary(simple one step rising counter) you can use Movie Player. Trigger speed 0/1 to start and resume and position output for value needed. You just have to make a movie(or mp3) as long you need.

      For more complex envelopes you can trigger with external timeline like Duration, QLab and others over OSC.
      I find Duration much easier to use than envelopes in Isadora.

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      • MichelM
        Michel Izzy Guru
        last edited by

        yep duration would be a good solution.

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        • camilozkC
          camilozk
          last edited by

          I still have to check out duration. saw the video yesterday and yes, it looks quite exciting.

          Anyway, for certain purposes just a pause input in the envelope generator would do the job, while rising counters, movie players or even duration seem to be a lot of paraphernalia to simple pause the envelope.
          I will try out duration today. thanks for discussing!!

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          • FredF
            Fred
            last edited by

            You can just gate the output and keep the last value, put that as an input when you start it again right?

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            • vanakaruV
              vanakaru
              last edited by

              Fred, I had the same idea, but trying to build it got rather complicated. And when resuming the timing starts from the beginning. Like you run from 0-100 in 10sec, but resuming from 66-100 again 10sec instead of 3sec. So you need another counter/envelope to take care on that? While all you need is in Duration right there. 6511dc-stop-envelope.izz

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              • cambrucedavisC
                cambrucedavis
                last edited by

                Would not the relatively new Ease In-Out 2D Actor do the trick? It has the ability to Pause and Resume the action and can be done with a linear curve to match an envelope generator. Just set the curvature to 1.

                Cheers,
                Cam.

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                • MichelM
                  Michel Izzy Guru
                  last edited by

                  @cambrucedavis

                  You are right, missed that one.

                  Best
                  Michel

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                  • camilozkC
                    camilozk
                    last edited by

                    @vanakaru

                    you patch works beautifully, and yes, it is very complicated. I will study it in order to understand it, but I am pretty sure it gets even more complicated as soon as I want to use an envelope with 2 or more segments.
                    [@cambrucedavis](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/cambrucedavis)
                    the pause input in Ease in-out 2D is exactly what I wish I have in envelope!! it is again not easy to work with this actor if have more than one segment.

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                    • primaldivineP
                      primaldivine
                      last edited by

                      @camilozk
                      you can tether multiple Ease in-out 2D actors (using the 'complete' trigger to start the next one) as if each one were a segment.

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                      • camilozkC
                        camilozk
                        last edited by

                        @primaldivine

                        true. it is possible to draw a very complex envelope with multiple Ease in-out 2D actors, but then it gets again really complicated to pause the whole chain of Ease in-out 2D actors

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                        • jhoepffnerJ
                          jhoepffner
                          last edited by

                          Hello,

                          I just discover the post and I also search a way to have an envelope working like the command on a lightning desk:
                          – possibility to start/pause resume
                          – possibility to accelerate/decelerate/go backward
                          Each time I give a class about Isadora, that is one of the first question when we make the first video player with automated fade, how to stop it? to go backward?
                          I tried to do that with user actor using envelope, with duration, it can works, but not easy to use for begginers.
                          It could be a great value to have that, easy to use in the tools, hello Mark and brave developers!
                          jhoepffner

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                          • m_theaterM
                            m_theater
                            last edited by

                            @vanakaru

                            this one will deal with the timing and resets itself after one pass

                            57a896-stop-envelope-2.izz

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                            • vanakaruV
                              vanakaru
                              last edited by

                              Pretty clever

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                              • jhoepffnerJ
                                jhoepffner
                                last edited by

                                I make another proposition, with start/stop/resume/accel/decel/invert, it's a prototype, but show what I would find in a super envelope actor…

                                It's necessary to use the movie included (100 second 1 pixel movie).

                                61766c-superenvelope.zip

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                                  Wolle West @m_theater
                                  last edited by

                                  @m_theater hurra - this is genious - thanks for this idea - isadora life is going on

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                                  • WolandW
                                    Woland Tech Staff @Wolle West
                                    last edited by

                                    @wolle-west

                                    There's also Ease In-Out 2D which is like an envelope Generator.

                                    Pros:

                                    • Built-in curvature
                                    • Pause, Resume, and Trigger inputs
                                    • Can change two values at once (it says X and Y but you can use them for whatever)

                                    Cons:

                                    • Unlike an Envelope Generator, it can only have one "segment"

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                                      Wolle West @Woland
                                      last edited by

                                      @woland - thanks a lot - this possibility is great too - however in my case i create a scene, where a satellite is circling round the moon  - so I need four segments to let the object fly in a circle - I looped the envelopes by retriggering themselves - but then how can I stop the loop 🙂 - captured in the endless universe !

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                                      • MichelM
                                        Michel Izzy Guru @Wolle West
                                        last edited by

                                        @wolle-west

                                        you can put a gate actor in-between and trigger it to off. 

                                        Best Michel

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                                          Wolle West @Michel
                                          last edited by

                                          @michel - sorry for my delayed answer - the gate actor is perfect for stopping the whole process - but the envelope actor doesn't stop - so i found a solution with the pulse generator - i cannot stop and go whereever i want, but at least I can do that "behind the curtain" 😉 -

                                          if anybody is interested how to control a satellite in universe

                                          Satellit.zip


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                                            Wolle West @Wolle West
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                                            Satellt.izz

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