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    • MichelM
      Michel Izzy Guru
      last edited by

      yep duration would be a good solution.

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      • camilozkC
        camilozk
        last edited by

        I still have to check out duration. saw the video yesterday and yes, it looks quite exciting.

        Anyway, for certain purposes just a pause input in the envelope generator would do the job, while rising counters, movie players or even duration seem to be a lot of paraphernalia to simple pause the envelope.
        I will try out duration today. thanks for discussing!!

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        • FredF
          Fred
          last edited by

          You can just gate the output and keep the last value, put that as an input when you start it again right?

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          • vanakaruV
            vanakaru
            last edited by

            Fred, I had the same idea, but trying to build it got rather complicated. And when resuming the timing starts from the beginning. Like you run from 0-100 in 10sec, but resuming from 66-100 again 10sec instead of 3sec. So you need another counter/envelope to take care on that? While all you need is in Duration right there. 6511dc-stop-envelope.izz

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            • cambrucedavisC
              cambrucedavis
              last edited by

              Would not the relatively new Ease In-Out 2D Actor do the trick? It has the ability to Pause and Resume the action and can be done with a linear curve to match an envelope generator. Just set the curvature to 1.

              Cheers,
              Cam.

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              • MichelM
                Michel Izzy Guru
                last edited by

                @cambrucedavis

                You are right, missed that one.

                Best
                Michel

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                • camilozkC
                  camilozk
                  last edited by

                  @vanakaru

                  you patch works beautifully, and yes, it is very complicated. I will study it in order to understand it, but I am pretty sure it gets even more complicated as soon as I want to use an envelope with 2 or more segments.
                  [@cambrucedavis](http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/profile/cambrucedavis)
                  the pause input in Ease in-out 2D is exactly what I wish I have in envelope!! it is again not easy to work with this actor if have more than one segment.

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                  • primaldivineP
                    primaldivine
                    last edited by

                    @camilozk
                    you can tether multiple Ease in-out 2D actors (using the 'complete' trigger to start the next one) as if each one were a segment.

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                    • camilozkC
                      camilozk
                      last edited by

                      @primaldivine

                      true. it is possible to draw a very complex envelope with multiple Ease in-out 2D actors, but then it gets again really complicated to pause the whole chain of Ease in-out 2D actors

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                      • jhoepffnerJ
                        jhoepffner
                        last edited by

                        Hello,

                        I just discover the post and I also search a way to have an envelope working like the command on a lightning desk:
                        – possibility to start/pause resume
                        – possibility to accelerate/decelerate/go backward
                        Each time I give a class about Isadora, that is one of the first question when we make the first video player with automated fade, how to stop it? to go backward?
                        I tried to do that with user actor using envelope, with duration, it can works, but not easy to use for begginers.
                        It could be a great value to have that, easy to use in the tools, hello Mark and brave developers!
                        jhoepffner

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                        • m_theaterM
                          m_theater
                          last edited by

                          @vanakaru

                          this one will deal with the timing and resets itself after one pass

                          57a896-stop-envelope-2.izz

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                          • vanakaruV
                            vanakaru
                            last edited by

                            Pretty clever

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                            • jhoepffnerJ
                              jhoepffner
                              last edited by

                              I make another proposition, with start/stop/resume/accel/decel/invert, it's a prototype, but show what I would find in a super envelope actor…

                              It's necessary to use the movie included (100 second 1 pixel movie).

                              61766c-superenvelope.zip

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                              • W
                                Wolle West @m_theater
                                last edited by

                                @m_theater hurra - this is genious - thanks for this idea - isadora life is going on

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                                • WolandW
                                  Woland Tech Staff @Wolle West
                                  last edited by

                                  @wolle-west

                                  There's also Ease In-Out 2D which is like an envelope Generator.

                                  Pros:

                                  • Built-in curvature
                                  • Pause, Resume, and Trigger inputs
                                  • Can change two values at once (it says X and Y but you can use them for whatever)

                                  Cons:

                                  • Unlike an Envelope Generator, it can only have one "segment"

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                                    Wolle West @Woland
                                    last edited by

                                    @woland - thanks a lot - this possibility is great too - however in my case i create a scene, where a satellite is circling round the moon  - so I need four segments to let the object fly in a circle - I looped the envelopes by retriggering themselves - but then how can I stop the loop 🙂 - captured in the endless universe !

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                                    • MichelM
                                      Michel Izzy Guru @Wolle West
                                      last edited by

                                      @wolle-west

                                      you can put a gate actor in-between and trigger it to off. 

                                      Best Michel

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                                        Wolle West @Michel
                                        last edited by

                                        @michel - sorry for my delayed answer - the gate actor is perfect for stopping the whole process - but the envelope actor doesn't stop - so i found a solution with the pulse generator - i cannot stop and go whereever i want, but at least I can do that "behind the curtain" 😉 -

                                        if anybody is interested how to control a satellite in universe

                                        Satellit.zip


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                                          Wolle West @Wolle West
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                                          Satellt.izz

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                                          • jfgJ
                                            jfg @Wolle West
                                            last edited by jfg

                                            @wolle-west

                                            my proposal for your problem:

                                            EDIT: a better version than the first I posted (pause/resume works better)

                                            satellt-JF.izz

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