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    Responses to Isadora v2.1

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    • MarciM
      Marci
      last edited by

      3154000  Changed how the Javascript actor runs “main()” in order to improve the efficiency when processing multiple simultaneous inputs.

      Could I get a bit of an expansion on the above please? Does this mean a loop of main is no longer triggered for every update to any input...? (Sorry - at work - won't be able to test for myself till this evening)

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      • crystalhorizonC
        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
        last edited by

        Thanks Mark, great work!

        Great to have Motion Blur FFGL, Aplha Channel FFGL
        While trying the new 3D particles actor, I couldnt find the 3D renderer. Am I missing something?

        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          3D render is a 'classic' actor so it needs to be turned on in preferences.  12d125-screen-shot-2015-11-03-at-09.13.30.png 483272-screen-shot-2015-11-03-at-09.14.11.png

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          • crystalhorizonC
            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
            last edited by

            Thanks Graham!

            So the 3D renderer is cpu only?

            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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            • SkulptureS
              Skulpture Izzy Guru
              last edited by

              Yeah - but check out "virtual stage". It may help.

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              • crystalhorizonC
                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                last edited by

                Yes, Virtual Stage does the trick! Thanx!

                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                • SkulptureS
                  Skulpture Izzy Guru
                  last edited by

                  Welcomes 🙂

                  There are a few actors that you may find hidden. They are not gone but we are strongly suggesting that people try to avoid using them in new projects because of the CPU limitations.

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                  • jhoepffnerJ
                    jhoepffner
                    last edited by

                    Hello,

                    Concerned about subtitle work, I make a try with global values.
                    I have one suggestion, it would be good to have the possibility one actor where you can choose which value you enter and with value you input, instead of list who can be very long (I use sometime subtitle text with 120 entries).
                    I try to do it increasing the name, but is difficult to manage the entries.
                    I send my first try.
                    jacques

                    96cf38-sous-titres01.izz

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                    • markM
                      mark
                      last edited by

                      @crystalhorizon

                      Yes, use the Virtual Stage. It will run about a  thousand times faster than the 3D Renderer because everything stays on the graphics card.
                      Best Wishes,
                      Mark

                      Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
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                      • UnfenswingerU
                        Unfenswinger
                        last edited by

                        Congratulations Mark. It looks like a stunning update and the roadmap looks very intriguing with the significant hush hush new capabilities on the horizon!

                        Many thanks.

                        @unfenswinger
                        Gone all PC...

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                        • DusXD
                          DusX Tech Staff
                          last edited by

                          @jhopffner I suggest you break the list up into sub section with logical naming. One great thing about these globals is the way you can group them by name. It allows totally name spaced use in user actors, and let's you break up large lists. Another useful thing is you can use them to pass large sets of data between javascript actors via JSON.

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                          • DusXD
                            DusX Tech Staff
                            last edited by

                            @Marci I had found a bug were a single main() was called dozens of times per frame because I had 20+ inputs. Each time an input was change the main () was called and processed for this single updated value. The method worked well enough for simple scripts, bit would slow down isadora with complex scripts with many inputs. It now runs in a Controlled manner, allowing the inputs to be updated as expected by the patch before executing. My tests all show this to be running much faster and more reliably. If you had not noticed the problem I mention, you should not notice any difference. How ever moving forward this change will alow you to push harder.

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                            • markM
                              mark
                              last edited by

                              Dear @jhoepffner

                              I think your idea of being able to select from the group is a good one, and relatively easy implement. We'll add it to the list of requested features, and see if we can get that into v2.2 which will arrive by the end of December.
                              Best,
                              Mark

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                              • MarciM
                                Marci
                                last edited by

                                @dusx had definitely noticed it - figured it was by design so I'd been getting round it by setting a global var to store current time and last time, and if the difference wasn't at least a specified time gap then skip running the main loop. Glad it's been tamed!

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                                • DusXD
                                  DusX Tech Staff
                                  last edited by

                                  @Marci
                                   Perfect work around!

                                  But yes, its much easier to to deal with now, and opens up more CPU time.

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                                  • ArmandoA
                                    Armando Beta Gold
                                    last edited by

                                    I saw your a little sad post on fb. You are dong a big piece with dawn and releasing 2.1. Don't even think how you can do it. Big fat round of applause to Mark and the amazing team. I want to stress that. Thanks!!!


                                    Armando Menicacci

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                                    • ArmandoA
                                      Armando Beta Gold
                                      last edited by

                                      And a second post to say: what in the world is the point list?Is it what I have been asking about? Like the  Nodes object in max? Where do we connect it? Have absolutely no clue. Did I miss a new feat ?


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                                      • markM
                                        mark
                                        last edited by

                                        Dear Armando,

                                        I can write you personally about the "perfect storm" of things that came together on that particular day – it was more than Izzy and v2.1. 
                                        But with regard to the Point List, all I can say is "Oops." I have a handful of plugins that are for my private artwork, and normally they are all automatically deleted when I build the installer. The Point List actor relates to one of those private plugins. It should have been deleted too. (There was another one noticed by @Nick above.)
                                        I'll ensure it is deleted from the build and re--upload the installer.
                                        Best Wishes,
                                        Mark

                                        Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
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                                        • jtoenjesJ
                                          jtoenjes
                                          last edited by

                                          I tried to comment on the "Version 2.1 is available" announcement, but seems like comments aren't working there? Anyway, my suggestion going forward is to completely rewrite the manual section on Serial In data parsing. Although it is quite thorough, it is possibly the most confusing bit of manual reading I have ever done. I am having a REALLY hard time figuring this out. Thanks in advance, Mark. Otherwise I love v.2.1.

                                          John
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                                          • jhoepffnerJ
                                            jhoepffner
                                            last edited by

                                            I agree with the comment on serial manual… I now begin to be able to use it for Arduino reception and command but a rewrite would be very helpful.

                                            But serial communication is not easy too…

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