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    • SkulptureS
      Skulpture Izzy Guru
      last edited by

      3D render is a 'classic' actor so it needs to be turned on in preferences.  12d125-screen-shot-2015-11-03-at-09.13.30.png 483272-screen-shot-2015-11-03-at-09.14.11.png

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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      • crystalhorizonC
        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
        last edited by

        Thanks Graham!

        So the 3D renderer is cpu only?

        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          Yeah - but check out "virtual stage". It may help.

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          • crystalhorizonC
            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
            last edited by

            Yes, Virtual Stage does the trick! Thanx!

            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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            • SkulptureS
              Skulpture Izzy Guru
              last edited by

              Welcomes 🙂

              There are a few actors that you may find hidden. They are not gone but we are strongly suggesting that people try to avoid using them in new projects because of the CPU limitations.

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              • jhoepffnerJ
                jhoepffner
                last edited by

                Hello,

                Concerned about subtitle work, I make a try with global values.
                I have one suggestion, it would be good to have the possibility one actor where you can choose which value you enter and with value you input, instead of list who can be very long (I use sometime subtitle text with 120 entries).
                I try to do it increasing the name, but is difficult to manage the entries.
                I send my first try.
                jacques

                96cf38-sous-titres01.izz

                Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
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                • markM
                  mark
                  last edited by

                  @crystalhorizon

                  Yes, use the Virtual Stage. It will run about a  thousand times faster than the 3D Renderer because everything stays on the graphics card.
                  Best Wishes,
                  Mark

                  Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                  Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                  • UnfenswingerU
                    Unfenswinger
                    last edited by

                    Congratulations Mark. It looks like a stunning update and the roadmap looks very intriguing with the significant hush hush new capabilities on the horizon!

                    Many thanks.

                    @unfenswinger
                    Gone all PC...

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                    • DusXD
                      DusX Tech Staff
                      last edited by

                      @jhopffner I suggest you break the list up into sub section with logical naming. One great thing about these globals is the way you can group them by name. It allows totally name spaced use in user actors, and let's you break up large lists. Another useful thing is you can use them to pass large sets of data between javascript actors via JSON.

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                      • DusXD
                        DusX Tech Staff
                        last edited by

                        @Marci I had found a bug were a single main() was called dozens of times per frame because I had 20+ inputs. Each time an input was change the main () was called and processed for this single updated value. The method worked well enough for simple scripts, bit would slow down isadora with complex scripts with many inputs. It now runs in a Controlled manner, allowing the inputs to be updated as expected by the patch before executing. My tests all show this to be running much faster and more reliably. If you had not noticed the problem I mention, you should not notice any difference. How ever moving forward this change will alow you to push harder.

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                        • markM
                          mark
                          last edited by

                          Dear @jhoepffner

                          I think your idea of being able to select from the group is a good one, and relatively easy implement. We'll add it to the list of requested features, and see if we can get that into v2.2 which will arrive by the end of December.
                          Best,
                          Mark

                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                          Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                          • MarciM
                            Marci
                            last edited by

                            @dusx had definitely noticed it - figured it was by design so I'd been getting round it by setting a global var to store current time and last time, and if the difference wasn't at least a specified time gap then skip running the main loop. Glad it's been tamed!

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                            • DusXD
                              DusX Tech Staff
                              last edited by

                              @Marci
                               Perfect work around!

                              But yes, its much easier to to deal with now, and opens up more CPU time.

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                              • ArmandoA
                                Armando Beta Gold
                                last edited by

                                I saw your a little sad post on fb. You are dong a big piece with dawn and releasing 2.1. Don't even think how you can do it. Big fat round of applause to Mark and the amazing team. I want to stress that. Thanks!!!


                                Armando Menicacci

                                www.studiosit.ca
                                www.armandomenicacci.net

                                Macbook pro 16 inches 2022 64 GB RAM, M1 MAX. OS 14 Sonoma

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                                • ArmandoA
                                  Armando Beta Gold
                                  last edited by

                                  And a second post to say: what in the world is the point list?Is it what I have been asking about? Like the  Nodes object in max? Where do we connect it? Have absolutely no clue. Did I miss a new feat ?


                                  Armando Menicacci

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                                  • markM
                                    mark
                                    last edited by

                                    Dear Armando,

                                    I can write you personally about the "perfect storm" of things that came together on that particular day – it was more than Izzy and v2.1. 
                                    But with regard to the Point List, all I can say is "Oops." I have a handful of plugins that are for my private artwork, and normally they are all automatically deleted when I build the installer. The Point List actor relates to one of those private plugins. It should have been deleted too. (There was another one noticed by @Nick above.)
                                    I'll ensure it is deleted from the build and re--upload the installer.
                                    Best Wishes,
                                    Mark

                                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                                    • jtoenjesJ
                                      jtoenjes
                                      last edited by

                                      I tried to comment on the "Version 2.1 is available" announcement, but seems like comments aren't working there? Anyway, my suggestion going forward is to completely rewrite the manual section on Serial In data parsing. Although it is quite thorough, it is possibly the most confusing bit of manual reading I have ever done. I am having a REALLY hard time figuring this out. Thanks in advance, Mark. Otherwise I love v.2.1.

                                      John
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                                      • jhoepffnerJ
                                        jhoepffner
                                        last edited by

                                        I agree with the comment on serial manual… I now begin to be able to use it for Arduino reception and command but a rewrite would be very helpful.

                                        But serial communication is not easy too…

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                                        • markM
                                          mark
                                          last edited by

                                          Dear @jtoenjes + @jhoepffner,

                                          Yes, well, the problem with serial communications is that there is no standard at all. To be able to handle nearly anything, the interface is necessarily complex. That's really the first problem.
                                          Take a look at [this serial protocol document](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAAahUKEwjs8P-nuvnIAhXMOz4KHXhTC-o&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.basecamelectronics.com%2Ffiles%2FSimpleBGC_2_4_Serial_Protocol_Specification.pdf&usg=AFQjCNH2bLDfYxH6PQFCFzj8ectmU_ibzQ) I found on the web. The parsing system is designed to allow you to work with something as complex as what is specified here. But even reading the document, for someone who is not a programmer, is pretty difficult.
                                          Probably a set of clear examples for the most common situations – the primary one being receiving data from Arduino – would go a long way to solving this problem.
                                          You could help us by perhaps sharing some examples of data streams you had a difficult time figuring out how to parse. If you have that information handy, that would be most helpful
                                          In any case, @Primaldivine is working on a major update to the documentation now. I will see what we can do before v2.2 in late December.
                                          Best Wishes,
                                          Mark
                                          (@DusX, could you ensure this isssue is recorded on our feature request list? Thanks)

                                          Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
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                                          • jhoepffnerJ
                                            jhoepffner
                                            last edited by

                                            Mark,

                                            I prepare a workshop in Paris with example in Arduino, Live, Processing and Unity. I am writing a manual in French but I will translate it in English for the other half of the world… 🙂
                                            – communication Isadora/Arduino though Serial, OSC and DMX
                                            – communication Isadora/Live through soundflower and midi
                                            – communication Isadora/processing through OSC and Syphon
                                            – communication Isadora/Unity though OSC and Syphon
                                            French version will be ready for november 15
                                            English first translation december 15, earlier if I found english speaking help…
                                            All the best,

                                            Jacques Hoepffner http://hoepffner.info
                                            GigaByte 550b / Ryzen 7 3800X / Ram 64 Go / RTX 3090 24 Go / SSD 2 To / raid0 32 To
                                            MBP 13' i5 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / Intel Iris / macOs 10.11.6 / izzy 2.6.1 + 3.0.3b2
                                            MBP 15' i7 2.6 Ghz 16 Go / GTX 650M 1Go/ MacOs10.13.3 / Izzy 2.6.1
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