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    Interfacing
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    • djinouiD
      djinoui
      last edited by

      There are many virtual MIDI cables but this one works well on Windows:  http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html

      Didn't try it from Isadora to Ableton, though.

      Computer: Asus N76VZ PC, Windows 7x64, Intel I7, 6G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06
      Isadora SDK dev computer: VirtualBox PC, Windows XPx32, 2G RAM, Isadora v1.3.1f06

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      • dbiniD
        dbini
        last edited by

        for this project, i'm on Mac. Skulpture - i followed your tutorial on Vimeo, but instead of playing MIDI files, i'm aiming to stream data over MIDI to control  parameters in Ableton, in the same way that a physical MIDI controller would do.

        i've linked the 2 together directly, but the only evidence of this doing anything is that when i set up Live to assign a MIDI controller number to a parameter (eg: volume fader of a channel) then go into Isadora and click on All Notes Off in the Communications menu, i get a random channel/number/pitch assigned to the parameter in Live.

        John Collingswood
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        • SkulptureS
          Skulpture Izzy Guru
          last edited by

          It's the same just in reverse really. In fact will make a quick video for you @dbini

          /edited/

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          • dbiniD
            dbini
            last edited by

            G - wrong way round. i need to send controller data from Izzy to Live, rather than listen for it, so i don't think a Control Watcher will do it.

            John Collingswood
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            • dbiniD
              dbini
              last edited by

              I was thinking a Send Raw MIDI actor might be useful, but its not quite the right thing

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              • SkulptureS
                Skulpture Izzy Guru
                last edited by

                The video is online but is only low quality at the minute - it will get better soon as YouTube process it:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BWU2Q3dP-4

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                • vanakaruV
                  vanakaru
                  last edited by

                  works just as shown above

                  MBP 4.1 & MBP (Retina, Mid 2012) MBP Retina 2017

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                  • SkulptureS
                    Skulpture Izzy Guru
                    last edited by

                    I've just updated the video with annotations too.

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                    • dbiniD
                      dbini
                      last edited by

                      Awesome! - nailed it! i had forgotten about Send Control.

                      John Collingswood
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                      • SkulptureS
                        Skulpture Izzy Guru
                        last edited by

                        Great - glad you are sorted. Don't forget to change the Controller Number each time you add a new one. 😉

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                        • dbiniD
                          dbini
                          last edited by

                          yeah - and set up all the Control Sends and activate them one at a time when MIDI Learning. i'm only looking at 6 controllers so it shouldn't get too complicated.

                          thanks G, that's another pint i owe you...

                          John Collingswood
                          taikabox.com
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                          & 2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX12.3 16GB

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                          • FredF
                            Fred
                            last edited by

                            you may find that to use a note as a control you will also have to send the note off with a small delay afterwards (Which can be just a send note with velocity set to zero).

                            http://www.fredrodrigues.net/
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                            • dbiniD
                              dbini
                              last edited by

                              now i'm trying to do the same thing on a WIndows machine: send MIDI control from Izzy to Ableton. Windows doesn't have the Isadora Virtual MIDI function, so does anyone know how i can do this?

                              john

                              John Collingswood
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                              & 2019 MBPT 2.6GHZ i7 OSX12.3 16GB

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                              • SkulptureS
                                Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                last edited by

                                http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/virtualmidi.html

                                Might work - never used it but have it in my bookmarks. 

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                                • dbiniD
                                  dbini
                                  last edited by

                                  cheers Graham - loopMIDI works beautifully (http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html)

                                  john

                                  John Collingswood
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                                  • SkulptureS
                                    Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                    last edited by

                                    Cool - glad it's worked.

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                                    • WhiteFlyW
                                      WhiteFly
                                      last edited by

                                      Hello,

                                      I am using Isadora and Ableton Live "talking" via MIDI, in both directions, perfectly on Mac (Isadora MIDI ports) and PC / Windows 7 (VirtualMIDI ports) almost two years.
                                      (http://vimeo.com/84267089)
                                      But I could not monitor and control the MIDI timecode and track the position of the cursor on Ableton Live.
                                      Anyone have any idea how to do this?
                                      neo

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                                      • SkulptureS
                                        Skulpture Izzy Guru
                                        last edited by

                                        Is this any help?

                                        http://troikatronix.com/troikatronixforum/discussion/298/timecode-calculator-comparator/p1

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