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    • SkulptureS
      Skulpture Izzy Guru
      last edited by

      A very old one here:

      https://vimeo.com/10724063
      And they have a Wiki page here:
      http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/wiki/

      Graham Thorne | www.grahamthorne.co.uk
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      • crystalhorizonC
        crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
        last edited by

        Thanx Graham!

        Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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        • particlepP
          particlep
          last edited by

          I've been playing with the latest emotion version. it seems a lot simpler now. one thing i've already got stumped on is the osc tool. i can;t see the o/c tool parameters to set up the linking.

          btw i found the older version of emotion not to work now because of a time limit, so was forced to use the latest version.

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          • particlepP
            particlep
            last edited by

            to see the osc tool parameters in emotion :

            window > current tool options
            tools > osc
            @[quarterinchjack](/troikatronixforum/profile/307/quarterinchjack) 
            i've been playing with osc multitransmit and have seen things working.
            in the osc tool options window next to message in type , i left it as no value or "-"
            in the value  - parameter window i selected three attributes for the camera ( the osc transmit actor having 3 outputs, all floats). 
            the osc options window did not update the incoming osc value, however the values were seen to change in the camera tool window. 

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            • particlepP
              particlep
              last edited by

              i've been playing with emotion again today.  the osc linking of values seems to have disappeared in the current version.

              one thing i'm aware of is that i'm not getting into the mindset of emotion to get it to work. when i say get it to work, i want to feel that the output is as a result of something that i am in control of, if only so i can say that the output is connected to my idea.  i rather feel that the programme is dictating what i can make from it. 
              this might be different if i understand it better.
              it might be that where i'm going wrong is from a point  of view of the mindset of a production and all that goes with that.
              there is also leap motion integration. that might be the next thing to play with.

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              • SkulptureS
                Skulpture Izzy Guru
                last edited by

                Thanks for the updates @particlep I know what you mean about software that can direct you rather than you direct it. 🙂

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                • particlepP
                  particlep
                  last edited by

                  does anyone know much about TUIO ? the acroyn stands for tangible user interface.

                  emotion supports it and i suspect from initial findings that emotion will work better via tuio connectivity than osc.
                  via www.**tuio**.org/‎  i have found this little video link of an iOS app : [https://code.google.com/p/tuiopad/](https://code.google.com/p/tuiopad/)

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                  • markM
                    mark
                    last edited by

                    Dear @particlep,

                    TUIO uses something like OSC, but you really need to interpret the data in a special way. This is something I intend to add to Isadora, but it's just not there yet.
                    I'm sorry that it's not there yet. You'll ned to wait if you want to use TUIO directly in Isadora.
                    All the Best,
                    Mark

                    Media Artist & Creator of Isadora
                    Macintosh SE-30, 32 Mb RAM, MacOS 7.6, Dual Floppy Drives

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                    • DavidD
                      David
                      last edited by

                      Dear All,

                      the new version of eMotion works out of the box with the leap motion.
                      Here are quick steps to making it happen :
                      1\. select the grid particle tool
                      2\. go to window/current tool options
                      3\. change values to width and Hight currently at 100 each to 50, then press create
                      (I use smaller values hoping it wouldn't crash but It maybe doesn't change anything it crashed 5 times since
                      I started this article.)
                      4\. once the grid is up go to tools/leap or press Cmd+$
                      5\. set fingers to "current tool" in the "Associated tools" and check the enabled button
                      6\. If you want to see the fingers positions you can check the boxes below. You might have to change the "translate values above" as shown in the attached picture.
                      7\. Now choose tools/motion brushes - tweak the values
                      8\. and voila depending on the force you applied you should see your fingers modifications
                      This is as far as I got. Once this is understood drawing with brushes is relatively easy.
                      It's really a shame not to be able to use this tool.
                      I personally use it by filming the screen with screen flow and use the footage in another program then projected on my large drawings.
                      Hope this helps.
                      Best,
                      David

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                      • particlepP
                        particlep
                        last edited by

                        i've made some short videos about emotion and how to do things within it based on what i've learnt by playing with it. hopefully they might act as doors into the programme for others ...

                        i've learnt so much from tutorial videos made by others i wanted to added something into the mix by making some myself.
                        i've assembled them into a playlist ... http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_aVODe7NTSYZ0rQOM52J674jg085mklV
                        the videos are based on version 0.71 of emotion.

                        isadora v3.0.7
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                        mac osx 10.12.6
                        dyslexic.

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                        • vanakaruV
                          vanakaru
                          last edited by

                          @particlep

                          Thank you very much. 
                          I went through first two. I like that you show the frustration points. These are really valuable bits of information. I have done the same mistakes(like not being on right layer etc). After these videos I expect more artists will use eMotion. 

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                          • crystalhorizonC
                            crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                            last edited by

                            Thank you so much for this tutorials. Is it possible to link the OSC Message to a motion brush? I was thinking to use NI-Mate OSC messages from the kinect tracking a dancer.

                            Thanx for help,
                            Alex

                            Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                            • particlepP
                              particlep
                              last edited by

                              i was playing with osc and motion brushes yesterday... 

                              in thinking about a response for you ... it has pushed my understanding of emotion a little further.
                              i'm working from a point of view that i don't know what you would fully like to do, so i can only speak from what i know so far ...
                              in emotion it is possible via osc to alter the values of the motion brush's 'size' 'strength' 'random' and 'damping' in real time.
                              one has to select via the motion brush tool window which brush is active.
                              i discovered that if you use the recorder to record a path for a motion brush to use in the script window that the event when played back in the script window is not brush specific, the path acts upon which ever brush is currently selected. 
                              in my playings i attempted to get 'x' 'y' co-ordinates into emotion via osc to control the brush path. i'm sad to say that i could get the 'x' 'y' values into emotion, however was unable to directly connect to a 'x' 'y' value in emotion. it's like emotion doesn't work like that.
                              i wonder if a kinect might directly work with emotion. i haven't currently tested this.

                              feinsinn does this help at all ?

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                              • crystalhorizonC
                                crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                last edited by

                                @particlep thank you for your answer. your answer makes sense. i saw that you can alter the values of the motion brush size, etc.

                                the idea was, to connect the x and y of the motion brush. for example i have a grid and the performer is moving the x and y of the brush, like you can do it with the trackpad. i have no problems to get the x and y from ni mate, for example the torso and translate it the osc values i would need, like you did in your osc tutorial with the intensity.
                                keep us updated if you discover if this is possible in emotion.
                                cheers,
                                alex 

                                Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                • particlepP
                                  particlep
                                  last edited by

                                  i've added a video re motion brushes and osc in emotion :

                                  [http://youtu.be/xGKtgnMA8is](http://youtu.be/xGKtgnMA8is)

                                  isadora v3.0.7
                                  mbp 2.6ghz i7
                                  mac osx 10.12.6
                                  dyslexic.

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                                  • crystalhorizonC
                                    crystalhorizon Beta Platinum
                                    last edited by

                                    dear @particlep thats very kind of you doing the tutorial. Thank you so much. Will test it with the kinect this weekend.

                                    All the best,
                                    Alex

                                    Alexander Nantschev | http://www.crystalhorizon.at | located in Vienna Austria

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                                    • C
                                      CLAUDE
                                      last edited by

                                      hello there, 
                                      I use eMotion over a year for my projection mapping video but since the latest version 0.7.1 
                                      several problems have emerged: 
                                      -My LeapMotion is not detected in LeapMotion tool options. 
                                      -MadMapper no longer receives the image via Syphon. 
                                      fortunately my Kenect work well with TuioKinect. 
                                      I hope a savior. 
                                      Thank you for your help. 
                                      CLAUDE

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                                      • DavidD
                                        David
                                        last edited by

                                        Dear @particlep @Skulpture @feinsinn,
                                        As I was tweeking my leap motion for another project

                                        the new version of eMotion works out of the box with the leap motion.
                                        Here are quick steps to making it happen :
                                        1\. select the grid particle tool
                                        2\. go to window/current tool options
                                        3\. change values to width and Hight currently at 100 each to 50, then press create
                                        (I use smaller values hoping it wouldn't crash but It maybe doesn't change anything it crashed 5 times since
                                        I started this article.)
                                        4\. once the grid is up go to tools/leap or press Cmd+$
                                        5\. set fingers to "current tool" in the "Associated tools" and check the enabled button
                                        6. If you want to see the fingers positions you can check the boxes below. You might have to change the "translate values above" as shown in the attached picture.
                                        7\. Now choose tools/motion brushes - tweak the values
                                        8\. and voila depending on the force you applied you should see your fingers modifications
                                        This is as far as I got. Once this is understood drawing with brushes is relatively easy.
                                        It's really a shame not to be able to use this tool.
                                        I personally use it by filming the screen with screen flow and use the footage in another program then projected on my large drawings.
                                        Hope this helps.
                                        Best,
                                        David

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                                        • G
                                          geemoore
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi all
                                          Does anyone know where I can get emotion?
                                          Is apple motion the same but a version on? I have that now but it looks a lot different to the tutorials I've seen on line.
                                          Thanks iav :G)

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                                          • particlepP
                                            particlep
                                            last edited by

                                            just adding an e makes for quite a difference.  .... links for both.

                                            motion : https://www.apple.com/uk/final-cut-pro/motion/
                                            emotion :  http://www.am-cb.net/emotion/
                                            the apple link will take you to a video special effect package.
                                            the link at am-cg dot net will take you to an experimental package in which one can generate visuals in real time based on parameters and live inputs.
                                            hopes this helps.

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